EPISODE 910 REMEMBRANCE DAY 2032 — LAST FIGHT OF HX 313 — WHO COULD FORGET VICTOR POPPA?

EPISODE 910      REMEMBRANCE DAY 2032 — LAST FIGHT OF HX 313 — WHO COULD FORGET VICTOR POPPA?


alan skeoch
Nov. 11, 2023

Victor Poppa touched my life.  And, yes, I do remember him.  Readers may find this Episode too long for
casual reading.   I understand.  The story is  a living story even though Victor died decades ago. Thisstory
was written when he was alive and we visited him in his unuusual California home.   I hope ou find 
the story both moving (tears) and amusing (laughter).  

My cousin, George Freeman, (who I never knew when he was living),,,George and Victor were both
gunners on HX 313.  Good friends in 1944.  George was killed when a German fighter strafed  HX 313.   As the plane pirouetted out of 
formation On May 24, 1944, Victor was trapped in his rear gunners’ bubble.  He felt he was about
to die then the force of the fall twisted the bubble and he fell out…read the story…..




Begin forwarded message:


From: SKEOCH <alan.skeoch@rogers.com>
Subject: VICTOR POPPA … JOURNAL OF HIS LIFE
Date: October 28, 2019 at 12:04:12 AM EDT
To: Alan Skeoch <alan.skeoch@rogers.com>




When I think of Victor Poppa I want to laugh and cry at the same time.
(I think Victor will be  pleased with this story wherever he is.)

I have been considering this story for more than 40 years.  Should the life  of
Victor Poppa be edited…be sanitized in other words.  Or should it be presented
just the way he wrote it back  in 1984.  I  decided  to be true to Victor and
present the story just as he  wrote it.   Rough and real.  Soft and sweet.
Some people will be disturbed no doubt…
either by  the brutality of the World  War II bombing of Germany or  by Victor’s
sexual exploits  when on the ground.  

alan skeoch
oct. 2019



Take  a moment.  Look closely at Victor.  His face in 1987 needs to 
be burned into your brain.  Look at that smile.  And  look deeper if you can.

VICTOR POPPA was such an unusual man that I have difficulty finding a place

to start my story of his  life.   He was unique in many ways but foremost was
his  ability to make every moment of his life magnetic, humorous and so enjoyable.


VICTOR POPPA:  

alan skeoch
Oct. 2019


As  mentioned  in my story titled “the Last Flight of HX 313, Victor was the tail
gunner in a Halifax bomber that was strafed and  set afire on a  bombing run over
Bourg Leopold on May 17/28, 1944.   He was trapped in his bubble and sure
to die as the big plane pirouetted out of the night sky burning in its death throes.
Then by a quirk of  fate the plane made a violent turn that threw Victor out
to the open bubble.   His  parachute was only attached by one thin strap
and Victor had to pull the strap down to grab the D ring.  When he did so
HX 313 and Victor were separated but both in free fall.

Victor survived but was badly injured.  That much you already know but there
is so much more that I would like to share with you.  Initially I only knew 
Victor from his letters  sent to me in 1984.   He cried when I first initiated
contact with him.  MY letter was sent 40 years after the crash.  Totally unexpected.
Victor was  then living in a trailer camp near Lake Elsinore, California.  Retired
air industry worker who moved to California when the AVRO  Arrow was 
scrapped  by the Diefenbaker government in Canada.  

Sometime around 1990, Marjorie, Andrew  and I visited  Victor.
I had a  short term sabbatical leave from teaching and  we flew to 
New Zealand and  Australia to look at their educational systems at
our own expense.  On the return flight we stopped for a few day
in California to visit with Victor and Louise Poppa.  We had no idea what  
to expect.  Our visit made New  Zealand and  Australia fade into the
background.   

Victor met us at the airport in Los Angelus driving a very large and very
dated Cadilac.  He had a grin a mile wide.  He loved us and made no
pretence otherwise.  In those few days  with the  Poppa family a  lot
of things  happened which are stories  in t themselves so  ‘let me count
the ways’ as the love poem stated.

1) The Cadillac.  It had seen better days at least a decade earlier.  We never
made the trip to Lake Elsinore.  On one  semi deserted  California
road, the Cadillac stopped.  “Damn thing, let’s me down too often.”
It was around 9 p.m. and the problem seemed  easy to me.
“Phone  the AAA and we can get a taxi to your place.”
“Not that easy, Alan.”
“Why?”
“Someone has to stay with the car…can’t leave it by the side of the road…”
“Why not?”
“It’ll get stripped.”
“Surely not…”
“Fact of life here…got to be careful.”
“Who will stay with the car?  Victor , I can stay here…no problem.”
“Would you mind, Alan?   Louise and Marjorie and  Andrew can get home with me
by taxi.  You stay with car and tow truck until it’s  safely put away…won’t take long”

So away  they went by taxi while I was left to mother the Cadillac and wonder
what evil persons were watching from the California darkness.  Probably waited 
only an  hour or so.  Not long.  No incidents.  

My initial image of  California was based on Hollywood.  Great wealth.  Extravagant lifestyles.
Splendour.   Well, Victor did not live that way.  His home was  a long trailer in a sprawling
trailer park where Victor had a lot of space to keep things.  Things?  Lots of spare tires,
fuselage of a light plane with no wings, motor parts…that kind of thing.

2) “You and Marjorie can sleep in this room.”
“Nice.”
“Got to be careful though.”
“Why?”
“Close to the Mexican border…never know who is  passing through.”
“Dangerous?”
“Could  be.   Look under your pillow.  There is  a pistol there.  If someone
comes in through the window shoot first, ask  questions  later.”
(I thought Victor was joking and maybe he was.  One thing certain  is that
there was a  real pistol under the pillow.)

“Nice picture above the bed…sort of contrasts with the pistol.”
(Not sure if I said this or just thought it.  Above our bed was a picture
of Jesus Christ with a  beating heart with words like “love”  and  “peace.”.)
“We are Catholic, Alan, maybe you and  Marjorie would like to come with 
us to mass on Sunday.”
“No problem.”
The picture of Christ and the pistol under the pillow were formost in my
mind by then.  The  two  things just did not fit.  That became  my image
of California.

3) “This is Shadow, our dog.”
“What breed?” 
“Pit bull…good guard dog.”
“Dangerous?”
“Never know around  here.  This is not a gated subdivision.”
“I mean is Shadow dangerous?”
“Can be, but I have a solution to that.  Look here.”
(Victor pulled a baseball bat from behind the front door.  Not just an
ordinary baseball bat but a bat that he had ‘improved’ by driving
long spikes through drilled  holes so that the long  points  were  exposed.)
“What’s it for?”
“Shadow.  If he attacks someone or just attacks another dog, I give  him
a good rap  on the nuts with this  bat.”
“You are  joking.”
“Nope, I take Shadow for a walk every with and take the bat along with me.
You can come with us.”
(And sure enough, Victor was telling the truth.  His  great grin never left
his face all the time we were with them.  The grin fooled me often.}

4)  Shadow was  a nice dog.  He liked  us.   Shadow  made me laugh so
hard one evening that I nearly died.  I  mean it.  I nearly died.  Victor 
saved  my life that evening.  I must tell this story for it shows  another
facet of  Victor.   He had many facets…many skills…a heart so  big
it enveloped all.  That is probably why he was so  lucky with English  girls
when on leave in England.  He was very  heterosexual. Those stories will come later
…in full detail
if I have the nerve to transcribe them.  

“Alan, let me  tell you a story about Shadow.”
“Don’t tell me he bit somebody.”
“Shadow does not bite…just looks like wants to bite if things get tense.”
“Story”
“A couple of nights ago Shadow was eating his dinner.  Bowl  was almost 
empty when a mouse jumped  in the bowl.   Shadow was surprised and  looked
over at me.  Then he looked  back  at the bowl with a furrowed brow.  And
he then  did the weirdest thing.  He parted his lips  and  slurped the mouse
up.  Then looked at me again.  The mouse  was trapped in his mouth between
his lips and  his teeth.  And the mouse was running back  and forth making 
bulges in Shadows mouth.  Shadow was startled.  He  seemed to be asking
me what he  should do with the mouse…not eat it but where could it be released…
set free…where could he put the goddamn thing gently.”

We were sitting in a restaurant when Victor told  me this story.  One of those 
all you can eat places that cater to retired Americans with limited money.  I was
eating some kind  of stew with large chunks of meat.  And  I was  laughing hard.
My image of Shadow  was  so  funny I could do nothing but laugh.   Then
 a lump of meat got wedged in  my assophogas.  Blocked
entirely.   This  had  never happened before but I knew that moment that I 
would be dead unless helped.  I was suffocating while Everyone was  laughing. 
 No one suspected
I  was  on the verge of passing  out…perhaps choking to death.  I  couldn’t
speak.  Precious seconds ticked by.  I then leaped up on the table trying to
gasp…trying to get even sliver of oxygen but failing.  Panic.  It was then 
that people  realized  I was in serious trouble.  I jumped down  from the table…could not 
breathe.  No one knew  what was wrong.

But Victor was a man who knew a crises when he saw one.  He immediately
jumped from his chair linked  his arms  around my back below my rib cage
and gave me one hell of hug.  Bingo!  In that split second the lump of beef
was ejected and I could breathe again.  I will never forget that moment.

“How  did you know  what to do, Victor?  How did you know to give me that hug?”
“I didn’t.  Never saw that happen before.  Seemed you needed  help.”
“Victor, you saved my life.”

“How did it happen,  Alan?” asked Marjorie.
“It was that goddam story about Shadow…made me laugh so  hard I could cry…
make me take a deep breath with a mouthful of food.”
“Why  so  funny?”
“Because I pictured Shadow with that furrowed brow while the mouse was
running back  and forth inside his lips.”

5)  And  of course we talked about World  War II at length.   Victor felt 
devastated  when he returned to England after walking  out of his POW
campt in Germany and trekking with Seeley and  nine French nurses
through the chaotic  ruins of the Third Reich to American lines in what
would become West Germany.  “George Freeman, I called him Hank, was
my best friend…we were both gunners in 424 Squadron, RCAF and that was
a bond but our shared  life together on military ‘leaves’ really made us as 
tight as brothers.   Someday i will tell you about our experiences with English
girls.  We met a lot of them.  George  was about to marry one and would
have done  so had not that JU 88 strafed his middle gun turret.”

“I am writing a story of my life,  Alan…don’t know  what to do with it 
really…let me send  a copy to you…I have a  good  memory for detail.
Maybe you can make something out of it.”

Victor did sent me his hand written journal.  This is only part of the story.  
Part One.   What do I remember most about Victor?  He laughed a lot.
His  face was creased with a few wrinkles that turned upward and not 
downward.  He was always  good  company, a  person people like to spend
time with.

6) My only flying experience with Victor came about almost as an
afterthought.   I did  not know he  owned a Cessna 170.  It was obvious
that he was not a wealthy man since his home was  a trailer in a 
trailer  camp that seemed insecure…need for the pistol under the pillow  
and  Shadow the laughing
pit bull.

“Would you like to go up, Alan?”
“Fly around Lake Elsinore…we  can do that…I own a plane…keep it
near here.  How about it?”
“Sure.”  (I said that with some nervousness as my experience with light
airplanes was not a bed of roses.  Flying in S 52 helicopters in the wilds
of Western Alaska had been exciting when I was a single male of limited 
value to anyone.  And then later aborting a takeoff on a swampy lake
full of deadfalls  in Ontario…and doing the attempt again with a pierced 
pontoon.  And hearing tale after tale of bush flights that failed.   These made
me a little nervous to say the least.)
But I said  ‘sure’ and  Victor drove me to the nearby airstrip where
his Cessna sat.   

“How long have you had this, Victor?”
“Quite a  few years…love to fly…wanted to be a pilot back in the war but
they had lots of pilots and  made me a tail gunner.  I just love flying.
Get in.”
(A Cessna is  a light aircraft…could carry two people and a bit of baggage. 
I notice the paint had pealed  off in several places.)
“Buckle up, here we go.”
Victor was  in his element as we taxied to the runway  and full throttled
our way into the California skies on a clear bright day.
“Important to buckle up Alan, because of that door.”
“What door?”
“Your door doesn’t close properly…easy to push open.”
I tried  to move a little closer to Victor…this flight was not a good idea.
“That’s Lake Elsinore ever there…coming up.”
“Do you fly often?”
“Whenever I can…mostly alone.”
“Why?”
“Louise doesn’t like to fly unless we are going somewhere special
in the interior.”
“Alan, take a look down there…gated subdivisions…more and more of  them being
built.”
“Why…are they needed?”
“Rich people seem to live in fear so they have guards
at the front of their estate homes.  Costs  a lot of money.
The rest of us  live wherever we can find a place   No guards.”
And  Victor circled over one gated community with a fancy Spanish name that
I have forgotten.  
“Can I take your picture Victor….while we are in the air?”
“Of course.”



And this is the picture I want readers to see. This was  Victor Poppa around
1990.  Beside it is his picture when he was a 22 year old gunner on HX 313.
Note one thing.  They look the same.  They  have that devil may care look.
Hard to hold back a smile…determined to live life to the full and prepared  to
share whatever he has with friends.

Now I think you are ready to read  Victor’s  journal.  I have  decided not to
edit his sexual exploits for they are as funny and  sensitive as  Victor’s dog
Shadow with a mouse running under his lips.

THE JOURNAL  OF VICTOR POPPA
(sent to Alan Skeoch in January, 1987, transcribed by Alan Skeoch 2019)

Alan, I am going back to day one in the story of my life.   Nine months after that
gleam  in father’s eye,I was born, August 30, 1921. The last of five children.  My
life up to four was uneventful until one  day as was just standing  in  my back yard
my oldest sister Sylvia approached  me  with one arm behind her back. 

“Victor, guess  what I have for you?”

She handed  me a model airplane with about a  6 inch wingspan with two
wings,  From that day my life was purely  airplanes.   I used to walk to the 
Elliotts airport and watch the airplanes take  off and land.  Mostly Curtiss
Jennies (JN4w’s)  I also remember a  damaged deHaviland Hornet Moth
…a high winged airplane , cabin for 2 people.  I can remember sliding my hand over
the shiny fabric and dream.  Since the airport was near Hamilton bay, we were
also visited by a Vickers Vidette, an English airplane.

Elliott’s airport closed down and a new one opened about an eighth of a mile
from our house. Here they had  four Gypsy Moths (de Haviland)  but the airport
had a short life because the approach and runway  were not ideal.  Finally 
Hamilton’s Civic Airport was built and  lasted until the end of  World War II
when  it became a  housing tract.







Only a mile from home  so I spent as much  time there as  I could.  Enjoyed watching
the  Piper Cubs land  and takeoff.  The Cubs had tail skis instead of tail  wheels.
Hamilton’s first air force Squadron , 424, was formed here. Equipped with Tiger Moths, then
later  Fleet airplanes with 90 horsepower Kenner radial motors.  It was  a big
day for me when a Lockheed 10 landed.  It had two motors and  I marvelled 
at how it could take off and  land  in such a short space. 

Then, for two dollars that I had saved,  I got a ride in a Taylor Cub.  I walked
on the  clouds for days after that one.   One  day  a Piper Cub J3 crashed and
the pilot was  killed.  I looked at the crash soberly but my feelings  for airplanes and
flying were not dampened.

One winter day I was  leaning against the  4 foot fence looking at a Curtiss
Reid  Rambler with its inverted cirrus motor.  The owner Ray C. came to his
airplane.




“Mister, I have 75 cents  to help pay for the gas, could give a ride?”

He agreed but disappeared for a long time.  it was  a really cold day  and
my feet by this time  were freezing So I left,  downcast, not for my 75 cents
but that I had  been let down.  I had come so close to an airplane ride.
The next week end I went back to the airport and while looking at the old
Rambler, Ray C. came  along.  He spotted me.

“Hey, aren’t you the kid that gave me the 75 cents for gas?”

My heart skipper a beat.

“Come on, get in.”



I climbed nto the front seat, Ray  strapped me in.  Soon we  were taxiing to the 
active runway. Before  i knew it we were in the air in this wonderful yellow
airline with tis two  wings.  We flew up towards Hamilton’s so called  mountain where i was treated to 
steep turns, dives, and spins.   The cold day did not matter one bit.  The  wing 
arrangement was called  Sesqui-plane because of the short lower wing.  Had
struts instead of  wires.  At the time, I did not know that Ray’s airplane was a 
retired airplane from early RCAF  days.  All this came to light on looking through
my 1985, 424 Squadron history book purchased  from the squadron reunion in 
the summer of 1985.

“During these tender years I built model  airplanes and  I still do  for that matter. As a very 
young lad I was not familiar with balsa wood so I used my mothers’ kitchen knife to split
pine boards with the help of a hammer.  Mother never said  anything about the abuse
of  her knife.   I used  my imagination a lot.   I made a hanger from a wooden box
wirth my squadrons installed as I whittled.   By he tie I reached  high school my
had really progressed with my model airplane building.

“During  lunch  hours in High School, I didn’t bother with sports or running through
peoples back yards, climbing fences, etc.  Instead I went over to a small building
where Piper J3s were being covered and  later assembled at our local airport. 
I used to enjoy talking to the fellows working  there and smelling that wonderfull
dope they used.  It smelled so ‘airplane like’. (I wasn’t into glue sniffing though.)
To me  a person has not lived until that person visited a place where airplanes
were covered  with Irish linen, then painted.  The smell was like fine perfume.


“About the last year I was  in high school the National Steel Car Corporation of
Hamilton was aproached by Ottawa and asked to build an airplane factory in Malton
just outside Tronoto.  When possibleI would wangle  car  ride from Hamilton to
Malton to see if I could get a job there.  Sometimes  I travelled all that way  on
my bicycle.  And often  I hitchhiked.  Finally i was hired on August 28, 1938.


GAP HERE…A PAGE SEEMS TO BE MISSING SO STORY JUMPS
VICTOR’S FIRST EXPERIENCES AS A VOLUNTEER SOLDIER


“About 100 of us were loaded in trucks and driven to Long Branch, a suburb of
Toronto.   We  were unloaded, marched and line-up.  We  were  each given a 
Ross rifle and handed 10  rounds of .303 ammo.  On order we  were  to load and
fire at will. Bullets hit rocks and whistled every which way.  It was a frightening 
experience.   I almost  dropped my rifle but pulled myself together and fired my
ten rounds.  That was  my first World War II shooting experience.

Just before posting  out on my first pay parade the paymaster counted
out my pay.   I was given $10  more than I was due which I returned and
was thanked for my honesty.  That’s the way I am. 

I was posted to Quebec City where I met my wife Louise  Voyer.  
(Louise was a girlfriend not a wife until after the war.  In between
Victor was  never short of  female companionship when on leave.
And  that is an  understatement.)   Then I was posted  to Belleville, Ontario
to Number 5 I.T. S.  Here we study airmanship, navigation, wireless, etc.

At this school decisions were made about our future  positions and placement.
I did not apply my energy fully asI should have and as a  result I was  offered
the opportunity to be a Bombardier.  Disappointing day. I would not be a 
pilot.

“If I can’t be a pilot, Just make me an air  gunner then.”

“So I was posted #9 Bombing and Gunnery school at Mont Joli, Quebec where
the St. Lawrence River is 20 miles wide.  We  flew in worn out Fairey Battle’s.
Two students at a time.  Bitterly cold.  When we fired our drum fed Vickers 
gas operated machine guns we  would hold one hand on the barrel and
fired until the hand was warm, then  we switched hands.  My flying time
at St. Joli was13 hours and 45 minutes.  I graduated as a  sergeant, given  
leave  and posted overseas from Halifax, Nova  Scotia’

Note:  Victor’s time  spent in Halifax was  disappointing. The “two brands of beer
tasted  more like  dishwater” and finding females was nigh unto impossible
as”they were gun-shy due to the constant flow  of  bodies passing them.”
After a week he shipped  out on the Queen  Elizabeth Steamship with
12,000 other Canadians. “We were  jammed into staterooms, aisles, every
part of the  ship.”  No luxury.  “My bunk was on the  floor with three more on
top of me.  The fourth person slept with his nose  touching the ceiling.”
there were chocolate bars available in he canteen  but the line ups were
long.  The kitchens ran 24  hours a day.  Occasionally they sailed past
cork life rafts that were empty.  This was sobering. Like floating coffins without
the bodies. They Docked after four days 
at Grennock, Scotland then they were sent to Bournemouth for posting. 

Note:  He arrived in England May  20, 1943 and returned  to Canada on July 17,1945 during 
that time he flew 49 hours and 45 minutes  on daylight bombing runs  and  42 hours
and  35 minutes night bombing the last of  which  was May 27/28, 1944 when
HX  313 was shot down and Victor became a  Prisoner of War.  In short Victor 
spent 12 months in active service May, 1943 to May 1944. One year.

He had one amusing comment about that year in England.
“I am Always hungry.”

“On arrival in England Victor was assigned to #22 Operational  Training Unit (OTU) flying Wellington
Bombers which were twin engined aircraft “of Geodetic Construction mid-winged,
70 foot wingspan, crew  of  5, sporting a Fraser back gun turret with four .303
machine guns (Browning), also had  a front gun turret which Bombardier was
resposilble for” in event of  a frontal  attack by a night fighter … a rare occurrence.”



Victor first crew was  Bill Tighe, a recently married Englishman. Bob Irwin
(Navigator), Ken Sweatman (Bombardier), Wilf Wakely (wireless operator) and Victor Poppa
himself (tail gunner). Wilf was experienced  having flown on 6 bombing missions one of
which was the first 1,000 bomber raid on the Ruhr Valley “which we named Happy 
Valley because  of the intense Flak, Searchlighs and  night fighters.”

Wilf Wakely was the only survivor of a Handly Page bomber (Halifax?) so had
experience  with parachute and escape  hatch.  Victor enjoyed the training flights and
the  lectures.  One lecture  saved his life.  Ken Sweatman asked Victor
to come to a presentation on photo flashes.  Later, Victor failed to properly address an
officer and  was told as punishment to harmonize the guns on an aircraft being
repaired.  Bombs had been unloaded safely it seemed.  So Victor paced off a 
target point behind the bomber, set up a harmonizing board, climbed the ladder
into the bomber and began walking along the catwalk to the rear of the plane.
His arm accidentally caught on the arming wire  for the photo flash and pulled out
the pin. Time delay began  ticking. In seconds the photo flash would explode thereby
detonating the other photo flashes  and then perhaps the whole bomb  load.
The photo flash units were bombs themselves though. “At this point I had two
choices either to remove the fuse  or jump out and run hoping I would be far 
enough away to survive the  blast.” Victor knew all the ground crew would die so
he decided to try and remove the fuse.  Success.  “I descended  the ladder and
told the armorer what happened.  He blanched’ as I handed him the fuse.  If  I had not attended
that lecture with Ken I would not be here today.”

While on training flights in England Victor had ‘real fun’ doing air to air firing from
his Wellington gun turret and also “we used  camera guns against spitfires” 
Then they practised  low  flying where Victor coaxed the pilot to get lower
and  lower.  Ken Sweatman got worried  and reminded Victor that “I am  a
married  man as  is Bill” All the same they did fly low  enough to touch the
top of trees, buzz a train and fly through a quarry ‘which was a near miss’. When
they to back from one practise run the ground crew pulled  branches  from
the motors.



halifax.jpg

“Night bombing was another matter…more dangerous.   Initially we did
circuits  and bumps in the dark…i.e. takeoff and  landing.  Then cross country flights
one of  which  created panic when a fire seemed  to happen just as  the plane
was  on its final approach. “Bill said, ‘I smell fire’ Wilf fired a red  flare and we 
were cleared  to land.   Bill had not bothered lower the landing gear, flaps  were
down.  Bill did a fancy  side slip but we hit the  air cushion between the airplane 
and the runway and  started  to slide, slide, slide…15 tons of  mass takes  a fair 
amount of  runway.  We skidded onto the grass as the tail swung around.  I felt
like an anvil on a chain.  Our airplane did not burn, fortunately, I had trouble getting 
out of my turret as the hydraulic  lines locked once the motor stopped.  The 
Wellington was totalled…ruined…fuselage was  twisted and wing bent up, centre
section spar twisted, propeller ruined, bomb bay a  mess and the bottom of the
motors cylinders mashed.  We got out OK…Bob our navigator cracked a couple
of ribs.  Bill had his log book ‘endorsed” meaning his idea of a fire was  not quite
valid.”

NOTE: Operational training was no piece of cake.  Victor estimated that about half
of the dozen or so  crew  members he started with died before ever getting
to fly a bombing run over Germany.   One crash must have made Victor and
his crew feel really badly as they were partly responsible.

“There were always bad crashes using those tired  old Wellingtons which
were difficult to fly on one  motor. One night in our trading at #22 OTU we were
 doing  takeoffs  and  landings and while taxiing down the runway Bill managed to get one 
wheel off the runway.  As we were trying to get our Wellington back onto the 
runway we heard over our raidio telephone another airplane talking to our tower.
He said he had one engine out.  Tower asked if he could take one more circuit as
we were stuck part way down  the runway.  the pilot said he  would give it a  try.
He  did not make it.
A few seconds later I could see a big flash of flame.  All aboard perished.”

“There was never any talk  about about all of the things happening but every day
we  could see  stretchers leaning  against the hospital  wall with dark brown  stains
from  bloodied bodies.”

NOTE: Victor was young, 22 years old, blessed with a feeling of immortality when he
first arrived  in England.  At OTU that feeling diminished.  He kept a stiff  upper 
lip.

NOTE:  English girls were great distractions for Victor and for many other airmen
who tried to live their lives to fullest for they soon knew their days living
on this earth were numbered.  So sex was an escape and a pleasure…as Victor
graphically describes. Each base provided a big box of condoms. “We  could take
as many as we wanted and did so,” said a friend of mine.

NOTE:  Some  readers may find Victor’s stories upsetting because  the sexual
detail is a bIt rough.  Sorry about that.  These sexual exploits were part and
parcel of bomber command experiences.  Some  are very humorous.  If you  find
sex disturbing stop reading  now.  NOW!

“Wellesbourne  was my first real  opportunity to meet English  girls.  These girls
were easy to get along with and very nice.  Wellesbourne sported  4 pubs.  We would
start down  from 1 to 4 and then back  to #1.  There was a lot of just regular  sex
with these girls.  With some there was a bit more than  that which  I remember with
a smile.  This one girl was  about 5’ 6” and well proportioned and would wait near a
lane for her  prey.  You could do whatever you wanted providing  you were both
standing  up.  One of her first words were ‘you are raping  me you know’ to which
the response  was ‘Uh! Huh’ and kept proceeding. She  was my first experience with
what was known as a ‘knee shaker’.  Later this same thing was done in telephone booths
when it was raining.  It was fun if  a little strange.”

“Another night I was  drinking my way  back to the base and I was well into my cups and
using my bicycle for support.  This fellow I knew had two girls with him.  He said  ‘Vic, I can’t
fuck  them both, do  you want one?’  Sure, I said,  I was given my choice.   My  friends
choice of  words did  not upset the girls.  They were both attractive and eager to get 
on with it.   I got mine down the road apiece and over the hedge.  This time missionary
fashion was great, especially  with one nice  buttock inch hand.  I finally got her  back over
the hedge, kissed her  good night … mutual kiss back.  The next morning on my way to the 
mess hall, the back of my hands were very itchy and I had to scratch them.  After reflecting
on the  problem a bit, I came to the realization that I had  deposited  my girl onto stinging
nettles.  I’ve often wondered how much scratching she had  to do  to her very nice  bottom?”

Dances for airmen were
a regular occurrence across England



“Another high light was when one night a female Cabby offered to take two of us from
our unit to Leamington Spa (about 20 miles from our base) for 10 shillings each.  We had her
drop us off at the local once hall.  I  wasn’t making  much headway until after God save the 
King was sung at the end of the evening..   While passing through the door I noticed this
reasonably shaped female on my left.  I slipped my arm under hers and said ‘Let’s go to the 
park.’  To which she  replied  ‘The park’s closed, let’s go to my place.’  We did not waste words.
Thanks to the blackout my hands were busy. She said ‘I’m glad “.’ ‘Me too1’
I stayed with her all night.  When  we were really into it she said ‘I don’t care if have a baby’…
I said ‘Me, too!’ and kept going.   She told me her name was the Honourable Olivia.  Olivia must
have  been between  35 and 40 years old.  What a body?  and  good-looking.  I was 22 years
old.  I awoke  at 6.45 a.m. and had 15 minutes to get to the base.    We were scheduled to fly
at 8 a.m.   Olivia asked if I could make it on time.   I said sure , ‘I have  7 shillings which is
more than enough for the bus.’  Olivia insisted on giving  me a 1 pound note (worth about
$4.50 Canadian)  I did not have time to argue.  From time to time I have nice thoughts 
about the Honourable Olivia.”

NOTE:  Victor’s RCAF career…would make a good movie.  I like to think that the Honourable
Olivia really wanted a baby…needed one for her biological clock was getting  past its  best 
before date.  Maybe her British  army husband had  been lost in the disastrous early months of the
African campaign…a side story.   Maybe  Victor really earned  that 1 pound note.
But that is  just speculation…fantasy.  Maybe.

FIRST  RAID:   BOMBING OF HAMBURG
(SO intense that  the  streets  caught fire)

“Our Squadron Commander deemed us ready for combat on July 24, 1943.   Our target was
Hamberg.  Mission Number One.  All of our training came to a head.
At the briefing we were told we were  one of 800 airplanes to go  on this raid…mixed bag or Wellingtons, 
Short Sterlngs, Halifaxes, Lancasters. 

 Once  airborne  we each got busy with our own task.
I loaded my four .303 Brownings and cocked each gun in the ready to fire position.  I then switched
on my reflector sight and to my chagrin I discovered the bulb for the reflector sight refused to light up
This was good cause to turn back but I voted to continue anyway and take  the  chance.  We were very 
naive at this juncture and it was almost our undoing.  However the gods were smiling upon us.
We crossed the coast at Scarborough, heading for Heligoland where we met our  first baptism
from “Flak” (anti-aircraft shells).  We  were at 20,000 feet and passed over the German Flak ships
without damage.   We then crossed the coast where the Elbe empties  into the North Sea heading 
inland to Hamberg. More Flak explosions around us.  I heard  the sharp crack from each
shell and saw the black puffs of smoke. I knew we could be hit as the flak was  very close.  The plane bounced.
We were being handed off from one flak battery to another en route to Hamberg.  Then there it
was…the city.  Well lit. Looking down I could make out the streets and see bursts from our bombs
 exploding. Some aircraft carried  250, 500, 1000, 2000 and 4,000 pounders called ‘cookies’.  Others
carried a mixed  bag…some  of the above,  Magnesium bombs (400 to a canister) and last but
not least, 35 point phosphorus bombs.  Phosphorus  was nasty…it would stick to anything  including
flesh.  There were 8 of these to a canister.  If phosphorus stuck to flesh, it began to burn and could only be put out by
sand or water.  So people hit by phosphorus had to be submerged  in  water.  And had to stay in water  
because the phosphorus  would begin to burn the moment a person left the water…burns  in an
oxygen atmosphere.  Phosphorus burning  people who jumped into water had to stay there.  After 
the  war I heard tht the German SS machine gunned their own people to put them out of their misery.”

“This raid  to Hamberg was also the first time we used a device  called ‘window’…little pieces of foil. When cut to the 
correct wave length these strips would confuse German Radar.  Instead of picking up individual aircraft, German
Radar  showed hundreds  thousands of  aircraft.   Our losses  this  night were nominal from the flak
but that did not stop the night fighters.  A Junkers 88 crept up our tail and got within 100 feet  but was
down lower…about 25 feet lower so it remained very close.  Fortunately we were flying in a 
Wellington and from his position we could  have passed for a Ju 88 which has two motors and at night 
we must have made the Ju 88 pilot curious.  Were we an enemy or a friend?  First he put on a  big amber
light then a smaller green light.  I said to Bill to start corkscrewing.  Bill’s idea of  a corkscrew was not
my idea  of a corkscrew.  The Ju 88 followed.  Then, just as we were about to start another
corkscrew, the Ju 88 put on a red light, levelled off and was about to give ua everything he had.
I Said ‘Bill, 360 port, Go!’  Bill slammed us into a 90 degree  bank to Port just as the Ju 88 opened  
up.  Missed us by a split second and  at the same time  we lost him.  Our 360 degree turn was  right over 
the target and right in the middle  of our own  Bomber stream.  Talk about Russian Roulette.
We still had our bombs aboard and Ken  then  let them all go.  Not safe yet.   We  shook off
3 more German night fighters which  Bill handled OK.”



NOTE:           Victor Poppa believed  the German pilot of the attacking  JU 88 night fighter got a bit confused  since
a the Wellington bomber and the Ju 88 looked similar as  you can see.  Victor’s crew were lucky
because  the Ju 88 delayed the attack giving the Wellington time to corkscrew and then dodge
to Port side.   Rear gunners, like Victor, often played  major role in detecting night fighters coming
from behind.  Some felt those Browning machine guns were useless.



Ju 88 German night fighter

Wellington Bomber

“Then  our intercom  went out and I couldn’t get Bill.  I flashed my flashlight up the  fuselage,
Wilf saw  my light and figured something  was amiss.   He  checked  around  and found
he had accidentally disconnected the plug.  Then our wirelesses quit working.  All faults
that could kill us.  Like I said the gods were smiling down  on us.  If  the intercom had gone
out earlier, I would not be here today.”



Note:  Victor and crew got back  to England without another crisis.  There were so many things
that could go wrong on these fights.  Even the accidental disconnection of an electric  plug
could spell disaster.   Tail gunners, many  of them, knew the Browning .303 machine guns
were not very effective so they did not have itchy trigger fingers.  Better, they thought,
was to act a spotters should an enemy  night fighter be attacking.  Alerting the pilot
a top priority.  Firing the Brownings  was a  distant second.  Bursts  of machine gun
fire  might just allow  an enemy night fighter to hone  in on an RCAF bomber.   Victor
does  not seem to have total confidence in his pilot which is never a good  sign in
a bomber crew.

“July 29,  1943, We were  sent out on a practice  bomb trip to Strensell for Ken’s benefit.
That evening  we were to go back to Hamburg for our second mission but this duty was
not carried  out because our ‘Gee’ set would not function.  We got 5 degrees east and  Bob
refused  to navigate.”

 Note:  Abortng a mission was a serious  issue.  By  1943 most crews knew their chances
of successfully completing 20 Bombing runs was slim.  Some crews seem to have looked
for excuses.  Understandable for sure but not acceptable.  An aborted mission was
always suspicious…always investigated.

“A ‘Gee’ set not functioning was  a legitimate excuse to terminate a mission.  Bob  could
navigate  without the ‘Gee’ but refused to do so.   Bob’s nose could get hard at times.”

“JULY 28, 1943, During the day we did an air test and that night were sent out on another 
cross country no doubt penance for Bob’s refusal to fly without his ‘Gee’ set/“

“July 29,  1943:  We were to got to Hamburg again.  Number 3 Mission.  We caught hell on
this  one.  It was a hot summer day.  We  had a total  of 780 aircraft going.  As before mixed 
bag of airplanes.Gradually British production of 4 engined aircraft was  starting to replace
the two  engined Wellingtons.  I’m not counting theShort Serling.  This airplane was a real
dog.  Once loaded with bombs it could not get to 25,000 feet.  Later the Sterlings were
given the  job of towing gliders exclusively.”

“Bill gave full power for take off with around 10 degrees of  flap.   when  we were over the 
trees at the end of the runway I could see the flaps creeping up on their own and we
were starting to settle down to the tree tops, at this point as we were just
skimming the treetops we started picking up more airspeed and slowly started
to climb.

“During the war density of  air was  not known as a  factor in an  airplanes’ ability to lift weight.  The hotter the air the higher 
the  airplane thinks it  is at, hence an airplane with ,say, an  ambient temperature of 115 degrees  might
not get off the ground at all.  Now, say the temperature is 70 degrees  the airplanes’ ability to life the same
weight would be alright.

 “We followed similar course as we had on  our first trip…via  Heligoland, the Elbe River to the target.  
The flak was real close.  They had our altitude right on but we were  off our Port side by 200 feet.
The Flak stayed with us  all the way to Hamburg with  continuous  explosions of  88mm shells.  Over
the target was not much  better.We were briefly caught by  searchlights but shook them off.  Ken was
getting the  bombs off and then he turned  to  get a  look as the  bombs were  released.  Lucky.  A chunk of
flak from below  sent shrapnel through the perspex (plexiglass).  It struck exactly where his head had
been a  moment earlier and continued  up through the instrument panel . Another piece went between
Wilf and Bob and  back  into space.  Shortly thereafter another  shell burst above me and one piece went
into our carburetor down into our supercharger and  we lost 500 rpm to our port Port motor and stayed
that way for the rest of the trip.

The fires were fierce on the ground.  Detial of  city blocks burning were easy to see from our 20,000 feet
altitude .  Bomb  flashes bursting  around the fires were also easy to see. The super race was  now gettng
its’ due.

“A master searchlight was coming up on our Port side. I  said to Bill to get ready to dive to port. ‘Go, Bill, Go!’
and  Bill slammed the wheel left and  pushed down.  We shot through the light.  Ken said  ‘Jeez’ then I saw a
this great big Halifax with the master searchlight and smaller searchlights exposing him to everything
that could  shoot him down.  His  bomb bays were were open as he was letting his bomb  load go.  I could
even see what kind  of load he had…all one type of  4 pound magnesiums (144 to a canister) and  it 
seemed thousands were spilling out.  This  poor fellow had to continue flying straight and level for
two minutes while his aircraft camera  took pictures of where his  load  had  landed.  Ken’s  comment…’Geez’
was Ken’s exclamation as we dove just in front of the Halifax I  just mentioned. That was real close.

Note:  I am not sure if the Halifax bomber Victor watched  was shot down or not.  Seems it was.

“Columns of smoke were higher than  our altitude of  20,000 feet. On our return to base and just as we crossed the English coast, 
looking back some 300 miles I could see Hamburg  burning.

“We were cleared to land.  As  we were crossing the runway  threshold I could see the fog following.  The poor devil 
coming in behind  us never made it and  I don’t know  where he  went as fog was right down to the deck.
When we  reached the  far end of the runway and  were now on the taxiway, there was a person trying to signal Bill
instructions.  Bill could not make him out.  So I  said ‘Bill, I’ll jump out and  get his instructions.’  This I did.  I used
to wear my parachute tight.  As  a  result when  walking I was stooped down slightly.  Lucky.  Anyway I was
starting to jog back to the man on the taxiway.  I stopped. And  noticed  the man was pointing his finger upwards.   
Turned and  looked up and here was  our port side propeller going ‘Tick…Tick…Tick’.  One more step and  I
would  have been  beheaded.  I stooped  clear, gave a thumbs up thank you and climbed
back into my turret.  I have  often wondered  why I stopped that moment…was it mental telepathy that
said  ‘Stop and  look at the man on the  ground’? His  mind must have been screaming at me.  After I plugged
into the intercom I said, ‘Bill, why didn’t you shut down the  power on the left Port Engine, when you saw what
was about to happen?”, Bill said “Vic,  I was petrified!”.

We parked the  Wellington “J” HF 541, went to the debriefing and had breakfast.   This was our third mission to Hamburg
anti tiook 6 hours and10 minutes.

On August 2, 1943 we were again selected to go to Hamburg…fourth mission. The  weather was not the greatest. In fact
was so vicious that more than  half  our squadron turned back.  However, since we lost mission #2 we  decided to see
it through.  Once we crossed the enemy coast the flak followed us all the way to Hamburg.  We plowed through numerous
cumulonimbus (word?) clouds with up and down drafts where thunder,  lightning , wing icing,  St. Elmo’s fire, cloud
cover was  about 10/10ths .  Hamburg was still burning from our previous fires.  We could see  the glow  of the fires
through the clouds.  We found a small hole in the clouds  and Ken satisfied himself that we were over Hamburg and
then he let our bombs.  We returned to base by another route avoiding  the Flak.  Once landed we were debriefed
as usual.





“Photos showed that we laid waste to nine square miles.   In addition to our four raids the American 8th air force
(USAAF)  pasted Hamburg with daylight raids.  The american effort was modest in numbers. Approximately 75
B 17 Flying  Fortress aircraft.  This was the USAAF first taste of deep  penetration raids into Germany.  The fires
in Hamburg were so intense that the asphalt on the streets flowed like lava…a fire storm so intense that the
oxygen was consumed and people suffocated in their air raid shelters. There  was  no respite.  People rebelled.
Where possible some people began  looting but that was difficult for the wind created by the fire storm was hurricane
force.  Apparently there was  terror everywhere.  From our altitude we did  not see all this  misery.  Better them
than us I suppose.

“Back  home  we  went to breakfast and with no sleep we reported to our respective flight authorities to see
if anything was on and, sure enough,  we were posted on battle  orders.  This was to be mission #5, August 3,
1943.  As tired as we were the  ground  crew got pre-flight preparation underway on our  Wellington.  Lunch
time came and went.  As usual we had the gut wrenching feelings.  The possibility of death being  foremost.
The feelings are never any different…they  tore us apart but as the acton increases a calmness descends.

“This time we are using Wellington “P” LN 448.  Dinner time arrives …the only time in the squadron that 
we ever received  bacon  and eggs.  Sort of last meal kind of  feeling.  Like  the hangman is ready  to
trip the trap. Then comes briefing time and  we  then find out where we are to go.  A one  aircraft mission.
Unusual.  We  are expected to fly into the Bay of  Biscay targeting the harbour of  St. Nazere on the west
coast of France where  the Germans have  submarine pens and other types  of shipping.

“Five aircraft from other squadrons  are to go elsewhere into ‘Festung Europe’ so that is all the enemy had to
contend with tonight.  Our orders were to cross  the French coast at approximately 13,000 feet and gradually
drop altitude until we were in a  position to make our run.  Our attack altitude must not be no greater  than
100 feet.  We had to make a visual sighting of  a particular island and from this visual start a timed run towards
the harbour and  after an exact number of seconds drop our two 1500 pound  mines.  All of  this precaution was 
necessary as the mines were a very secret kind and our side did not wish the Germans to know their intended use.
  So far everything was going fine, however, we were in fog at 100 feet.  Hopefully Bill was
reading  the altimeter for our briefing had stressed forcefully that we ‘must’ make  our attack at exactly 100 feet.
Bob was getting excellent ‘Gee’ flashes and said 

‘Vic,  stand  up in your turret and  look down, we are just about over the
island…we must have a visual of the island, if not, then we  have to take our mines  home!’

‘Coming, coming, Now!’

“No visual for me.  Because of the fog, I could not see the  island.  Instead I got a burst of shells
from  a  20  mm Quad.   The quad gunner missed my face by 20 or 30 feet.  Close…Real close.
So close  that it was easy to see the caliber and there were enough tracer shells to see how
close his aim was to our airplane’s centre line.  The German had our airplane  right on.  Had he
pulled the trigger a split second sooner he would’ve parted our Wellington into two  distinct parts
right at the centre line.  The gunner probably picked up our red exhaust stacks and the noise
from  our motors.   He likely even had time to set his guns vertical and  just wait for us to pass over.  
It was that easy for him.  The gods again smiled on us. We  did not get our visual therefore
our mines were not dropped.  No point in doing a second run because  the  fog was very thick.
And, had we tried, we would have been hit by  that gunner and  20 mm Quad. We crossed  the
French  coast  in a climb and then  back across the English Channel to our base.  The armourers
then were obliged remove the mines.  This  mission lasted 6 ours and 20 minutes.
 
“August 5, 1943.  We are to go out again so  we went through our usual routine.  At briefing
we  were to go to the Ruhr Valley.  I do not remember the intended  target by name.  It was  a
bayonet factory which employed 50 people.  The buildings  all around the factory were hospitals
where thousands  of  injured from Hamburg were taken and others from  previous  air raids.
It was  in fact a hospital town.  We  were sending 600 bombers to get the bayonet factory and  its 50 employees
and in the process  wipe out the whole town. “After the briefing our C.O.  said it was  quote, ‘O.K.’
if we emptied the hospitals.  I  felt real squishy in the  stomach.  Not the usual nervousness preceding
a mission.  I did not like  the idea of  hitting  hospitals.   Our aircraft was bombed  up anyway and
just as we were taxiing for take  off a red flare  was fired.  The mission was scratched and  I think
everyone  was relieved.  Getting Krauts one way was fine with me but not by deliberately hitting hospitals.

“Sir Arthur  Harris was chief of Bomber Command and  fondly called  ‘Butcher Harris’ by Bomber
command aircrews.  This mission to the Ruhr could  technically  have called  a  war crime.

Note:  Much  has been written  about Sir Arthur Harris and  the carpet bombing  of German 
cities.  He was  never dissuaded by critics.   Did Harris know about the huge number of
German civilians were killed in his thousand  bomber raids?  He seems to have known.  One day
he was stopped for speeding in England.  The police officer asked  ‘Do you  want to kill
somebody?  To which Harris  responded ‘That’s my job to kill people.’  After the war, when
the massive devastation of German cities was seen by Allied  troops there were second
thoughts  about the actions of  Bomber Command.  This  ‘after the  fact’ criticism hurt the
feelings  of  Allied Bomber Command aircrews.

“August 6, 1943,   During the day we flew  Wellington “W” HE82 for an air test  then in the
evening we were ordered go up on our third command  Bullseye and cross country flight
which  was a test of British  air defences…searchlights and  night  fighters. We  were coned
by shearchlights and  supposedly shot down by a  Bristol Beaufighter (2 motor kind).  It’s a good
thing all was fun and games. This flight took  4hours  and 45 minutes.

August 13,  1943:Our squadron (427) was moved from Eastmoor to Leeming, a peace time
air field in Yorkshire with permanent buildings.  The really big news today is that our  crew
is going to switch from 2 motored Wellingtons to 4 engined  Halifax’s



AM  I GOING TO SURVIVE?
(The  thought that ran  through every airman’s mind)

The odds were against survival.  Young airmen came to that conclusion early in the career.  No doubt many 
joined  the RCAF because it sounded  exciting.  To fly.  Each person on an aircrew was expected to complete
a tour of 30 flights  over enemy territory.  Only 16% managed to reach this goal.  Some of these airmen
even continued  to fly, i.e. more than 30 flights,  in spite of the long odds against them. 
 Most, like  my cousin George Freeman,
looked forward to completing 30 and retiring from active  bombing.  George Freeman even volunteered  and
joined extra  crews  to get the 30 missions completed  as  he planned  to marry if  he survived.  He did not
make it as HX 313 was shot down May 27/28 1944 and  he was likely  killed  in his upper  turret bubble.

In the big picture there were 120,000 members of  the Allied  Bomber Command of
which  55,573 died.   Of these deaths,  9,919 were Canadians, a death rate that 
was  very high for a country with a small population like Canada.

  Statistically that meant that a  member of RACAF  Bomber
Command in a Halifax bomber only had a 17.3% chance of  survival.*

Perhaps  the darkest way to explain what happened to these young  men is to consider it this way.
For every 100 men in Bomber Command 45 were killed, 6 were badly hurt, 8 became Prisoners of War and
41 returned to Canada with no visible scars.  That does not include the mental  scars which for many
were deep  and long lasting.  And that is perhaps  why few  airmen wanted to talk about their experiences.

END PART 1

NOTE:  THIS  IS PART 1 OF THE VICTOR POPPA  JOURNAL/DIARY WHICH HE ENTRUSTED TO ME
BACK  IN THE  1980’S.   PAGES  1 TO 29.   AN EARLIER EXCERPT WAS TITLED  ‘THE LAST FLIGHT
OF HX  313’…A FOUR ENGINED HALIFAX BOMBER.  I HOPE VICTOR’S  SEXUAL  EXPLOITS IN THIS
FIRST PART OF  THE STORY ARE READ  WITH AMUSEMENT RATHER THAN DISGUST.  IT IS  IMPORTANT
TO REMEMBER THAT RCAF AIR CREWS WERE  AWARE THAT THEIR  LIVES COULD BE  TERMINATED
AT ANY MOMENT.  THE GIRLS THEY MET KNEW THAT AND MANY  OF THOSE GIRLS  KNEW THAT
THEIR LIVES HAD SUDDENLY BEEN CHANGED FOREVER.













THE MARCH
March Map
March 1

Nothing in Shakespeare could match the impact of the short speech delivered in the middle of the second act of “You Can’t Take It With You” at the South Compound Theater on the night of January 27, 1945. Making an unscripted entrance, Col. Charles G. Goodrich, the senior American officer, strode center stage and announced, “The Goons have just given us 30 minutes to be at the front gate! Get your stuff together and line up!”

At his 4:30 staff meeting in Berlin that very afternoon, Adolf Hitler had issued the order to evacuate Stalag Luft III. He was fearful that the 11,000 Allied airmen in the camp would be liberated by the Russians. Hitler wanted to keep them as hostages. A spearhead of Soviet Marshal Ivan Konev’s Southern Army had already pierced to within 20 kilometers of the camp.

In the barracks following Colonel Goodrich’s dramatic announcement, there was a frenzy of preparation — of improvised packsacks being loaded with essentials, distribution of stashed food, and of putting on layers of clothing against the Silesian winter.

As the men lined up outside their blocks, snow covered the ground six inches deep and was still falling. Guards with sentinel dogs herded them through the main gate. Outside the wire, Kriegies waited and were counted, and waited again for two hours as the icy winds penetrated their multilayered clothes and froze stiff the shoes on their feet. Finally, the South Camp moved out about midnight.

Out front, the 2,000 men of the South Camp were pushed to their limits and beyond, to clear the road for the 8,000 behind them. Hour after hour, they plodded through the blackness of night, a blizzard swirling around them, winds driving near-zero temperatures.

At 2:00 a.m. on January 29, they stumbled into Muskau and found shelter on the floor of a tile factory. They stayed there for 30 hours before making the 15.5-mile march to Spremberg, where they were jammed into boxcars recently used for livestock. With 50 to 60 men in a car designed to hold 40, the only way one could sit was in a line with others, toboggan-fashion, or else half stood while the other half sat. It was a 3-day ordeal, locked in a moving cell becoming increasingly fetid with the stench of vomit and excrement. The only ventilation in the cars came from two small windows near the ceiling on opposite ends of the cars. The train lumbered through a frozen countryside and bombed-out cities.

Along the way, Colonel Goodrich passed the word authorizing escape attempts. In all, some 32 men felt in good enough condition to make the try. In 36 hours, all had been recaptured.

The boxcar doors were finally opened at Moosburg and the Kriegies from the South and Center Compounds were marched into Stalag VIIA.

MOOSBURG – Stalag VIIA
MOOSBURG

Stalag VIIA was a disaster. It was a nest of small compounds separated by barbed wire fences enclosing old, dilapidated barracks crammed closely together. Reportedly, the camp had been built to hold 14,000 French prisoners. In the end, 130,000 POWs of all nationalities and ranks were confined in the area. In some compounds the barracks were empty shells with dirt floors. In others, barracks consisted of two wooden buildings abutting a masonry washroom with a few cold-water faucets. Wooden bunks were joined together into blocks of 12, a method of cramming 500 men into a building originally intended for an uncomfortable 200. All buildings were hopelessly infested with vermin. As spring came to Bavaria, some of the more enterprising Kriegies moved out of the barracks into tents that had been erected to accommodate the stream of newcomers still coming in from other evacuated stalags. Some men chose to sleep on the ground, setting up quarters in air raid slit trenches. The camp resembled a giant hobo village.


EPISODE 908 DISCOVERY OF A FERAL APPLE TREE — APPLES THE SIZE OF GRAPEFRUIT— BUSHELS OF THEM

EPISODE 908    DISCOVERY OF A FERAL APPLE TREE  — APPLES THE SIZE OF GRAPEFRUIT— BUSHELS OF THEM


alan skeoch
Nov. 8, 2023



FERAL APPLE TREE BONANZA

It is a wretched looking tree.  branches twisted and contorted as if being punished.  It grows in the roadside ditch between 
the two Skeoch farms on the Fifth Line of Erin Township.   In short the tree would never win a beauty contest.   But it
could  become famous for its fruit.   Bushels and bushels of apples some of which are as big as grapefruit..  

But I am getting ahead myself.  I have crawled, walked, ridden, skated down this road piece for my whole life and i am 85 errs old
In all that time I never noticed this tree until this cold November day as I Was driving from one farm to the other.

“Holy Samoley, that tree is loaded..big apples.  No! big is a poor term.  Huge apples.”
“How many?” quizzed Marjorie
“Enough for you to make apple pies all winter.”
“Like spy apples?”
“Almost identical but they taste better.”
“Many on the tree?  Are you exaggerating?”
“Here are four pails of the apples …all picked in 15 minutes … I can stand on
the gravel road and pick them with ease.”

“In my 85 years I  never noticed this tree.  I am older than the tree . Eric and I played
hide and seek among the huge boulders that the McLeans dumped along the fencerow in
years past.  Jack in the pulpits attracted our attention but we never noticed this
apple tree growing ….never noticed apples until this year.  And the biggest apples are 
at the top …all I need is a ladder courage to get them meanwhile you can peel a bunch
and make an apple pie.”

“Will they keep?  So many apples turn to mush when they touch each other..”
“These apples grow in clusters….five,six, seven apples in a clump. “
“Most Wild apples are small…these are huge.  Are you kidding me?
Did you buy these apples?”
“Come along…you can boost me.”
“It wil take too long.”
“If we walk slowly it will take five minutes…ir we run two minutes.  I tell you
without word of a lie you are about to make a discovery that you will never forget.”

“I bet that guy Husband from the University of Guelph would like to take a cutting from ‘our 
feral apple tree.”

“What do you mean by the term ‘our’…..this tree grows in the roadside ditch…public…owned by the township.”
“You just explained why I never noticed this tree before now.”
“How?”
“Remember the big storm last spring?
Devastated the trees”


“Think this feral apple tree has been hiding behind other trees….the storm ripped out  the cover and
the township forestry people cleaned up….cut all the crap around the feral tree….gave
it the breathing space it was waiting a lifetime to have happen.  That’s just a guess.”
“Why did they not cut up the feral tree?”
“Come along…you will see why.  The tree is protected by a jungle of twigs and branches…hard to 
penetrate with a chain saw.  Why bother”
“Why not call Brian Husband….the professor”
“He might not give a damn.  No-one cares.”

alan

Postscript:  Wonder of wonders…Brian Husband is alive and well and interested

NOTE FROM BRIAN HUSBAND  (NOV. 8, 2023

Hello Alan,
Thank you for including me on your latest episode about the orchard. I appreciated the photos and the words. They made me curious about the history of that orchard. Do you have reason to believe those trees were part of an actual orchard of cultivars or might they be seeds that established and persisted because they were protected from cultivation for some reason. I always enjoy those little discoveries and the questions that arise about their origin.
 
Thanks for your observations and thoughts.
 
Best,
 
Brian
 
Dr. Brian C Husband (he/him) |Professor of Integrative Biology University of Guelph, Summerlee Science Complex Rm 1477 | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 54790 |  bhusband@uoguelph.ca | www.uoguelph.ca/ib/

“After comparing the genes of 578 naturalized feral trees to those of 156 non-feral varieties, as well as some ornamental species, the researchers discovered feral varieties originate strictly from commercially grown species. The study revealed parents of many feral apple trees comprise nine heritage cultivars — all varieties grown before 1900 — that accounted for 72 per cent of the identified parental lineages in the analysis.

“The origin of feral trees wasn’t so much the commercial apples fertilizing native crabapple, but rather these escaped apples that were now out there and growing wild,” said Husband. “The legacy of these old cultivars, some of which are no longer in production, reside in the mixed genomes of these wild apples.”


Some cider producers have begun mapping and evaluating unique apple strains found growing in abandoned orchards, hedgerows and historical properties, looking for those that are suitable for making hard cider, Husband added.

“There is definitely a growing interest in feral apples. Cider producers are looking for interesting flavours, and feral apples with heritage traits may be just what they are looking for.”


“Marjorie, I took two of these apples to our high school reunion today…seven old timers from Humberside C.I.”
“were the excited?”
“Not much…only Zig Novak who said “this looks like a Northern Spy Apple”
“Cynical?”
“No, I think he was perceptive…asked him to take a bite as I did.”
“His comment?”
“Alan, I am taking this apple for my wife to taste.”
“Seemed to support your great discovery  How did the others feel?”
“I think  some of them  thought I was a bit wacky.”
“True.”



EPISODE 906 THE FORGOTTEN ORCHARD — NOVEMBER SKY (NOV. 5, 2023)






EPISODE 906    THE FORGOTTEN ORCHARD — NOVEMBER SKY  (NOV. 5, 2023)

alam skeoch
nov. 5, 2023




FORGOTTEN ORCHARD

The forgotten orchard sits atop a glacial drumlin in Erin Township  Ancient t=appple trees
perhaps planted by Jean and Janet McLesn early in the 20th century.   Located 
this November day where the horizon meets the sky.   A forgotten orchard that still
bears fruit  Indiferent fruit for no one cares.  

Few people take the time to climb the steep face of the drumlin.  
what’s the point” The apple are small and few remain on the twisted
branches  Summer apples with names long forgotten like Madens Blush…an 
apple best collected in August when the blush is firm.

.

FERAL APPLE TREES 

Prof. Brian Husband
bhusband@uoguelph.ca


Apple trees – and the fruit and seeds that grow on them – are produced only through mating of two genetically different varieties. That means feral apples are combinations of past varieties. Two distinct feral trees can also mate with each other, as can a feral tree with a commercial variety.

Feral apples were long suspected to be hybrids between commercially grown species and a native crabapple tree, but this study found that not to be the case.

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Makers of hard cider are increasingly interested in wild apples.

After comparing the genes of 578 naturalized feral trees to those of 156 non-feral varieties, as well as some ornamental species, the researchers discovered feral varieties originate strictly from commercially grown species. The study revealed parents of many feral apple trees comprise nine heritage cultivars — all varieties grown before 1900 — that accounted for 72 per cent of the identified parental lineages in the analysis.

“The origin of feral trees wasn’t so much the commercial apples fertilizing native crabapple, but rather these escaped apples that were now out there and growing wild,” said Husband. “The legacy of these old cultivars, some of which are no longer in production, reside in the mixed genomes of these wild apples.”

This finding provides insight into why feral apples have the strong taste that hard cider producers are after.

Over the last century or more, the Canadian apple industry has focused on the fresh market and eating apples, which are not ideal for cider, said Husband.

“Few suitable cider varieties are currently available in Ontario, so cider producers have begun looking at feral apples because they have the right taste.”

Cronin said the characteristics of feral populations may resemble varieties of apples that were grown hundreds of years ago by Ontario cider makers.

“The interesting flavours and aromas found in feral apple fruit might appeal to the Ontario apple industry in creating unique cider beverages,” he said. “There is a vast trove of untapped genetic potential in the natural landscape of southern Ontario that could be used to enhance or diversify the commercial cider industry.”

Some cider producers have begun mapping and evaluating unique apple strains found growing in abandoned orchards, hedgerows and historical properties, looking for those that are suitable for making hard cider, Husband added.

“There is definitely a growing interest in feral apples. Cider producers are looking for interesting flavours, and feral apples with heritage traits may be just what they are looking for.”



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EPISODE 902 CAN I EAT BLACK WALNUTS?

EPISODE 902    CAN IEAT BLACK WALNUTS?


alan skeoch
nov. 3, 2023



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Yes, black walnuts are edible but they need to be prepared.  Here are long
and short instructions.

SHORT INSTRUCTIONS

Gather a basket of black walnuts.  Peal off the soft outer
shell which turns black and gooey  then put the walnuts 
some place dry where the squirrels can’t get them.
Then place each walnut in a workshop vice to smash
open the shell.  Use a small sharp tool to weasel out the nut
in pieces.

LONG INSTRCUTIONS

1) Gather pile of black walnuts
2)  Let the worms (invisible) help get much of the black outer casing removed 
3) Use gloves so you do not stain your hands.
4) Wash the shells in pail of water, stir with paddle…rinse.
5) Wash again…rinse again
6) Wash again until water is clear
7) Allow nuts to dry in warm place
8) Be sure squirrels cannot get access.
9) Place each nut vertically workshop  vice….crush
10) Separate shell fragments from nut meat carefully
11) Taste nut meat
12) Plan gourmet use for nut meats
13) Or…put some nut meat on your bird feeder as a treat

“Black Walnuts are delicious to eat.  We used to gather hundreds of the walnuts and put them on top of the hot air ducts in the basement to dry for a few weeks.  When they were dry we would take them down and crack them open.  The work bench vice was great for cracking them.  The trees themselves do tend to prevent other trees from growing under them.  Their roots seem to secret some kind of toxin that discourages them but smaller shrubs and grasses would grow under them.  The squirrels really liked them and would hoard them for winter.”    Quote from Rooter  




The black walnuts turn back and gooey .  Get rid of this guck by washing.  Then give nut time to dry.  Be on lookout
for red squirrels.

EPISODE 901 CHELSEA BUN IN TROUBLE — WHERE IS SHE?

episode  899     “Meowww! MEOWWW!” “I HEAR YOU , CHELSEA BUN, BUTWHERE ARE YOU?


alan skeoch
Oct  30m 2023




OUR KITTEN CHOSE ITS HOME HIGH ATOP THE WASHER DRIER IN THE LAUNDRY ROOM

We live in Mississauga on what was once land owned by the Mississuagas.
As a result the house lots on our street are unusual.   Huge.  Ours is 55 feet x 400 feet.  Lots of big trees
and scrub underbrush…we even have a small stream casually working its way to Lake Ontario and
a great swath of unmanicured forest.   Inshort the back of our lots look like they have always been 
wild.

A den of coyotes have taken up residence for years.  BolD at times.  But not with me for
I carry a gun which I bought for a couple of bucks at the Dollar Store complete with several
strips of ammunition.  I wear it on my hip for a fast draw if the coyotes decide to attack Woody
 a couple of pops scares them off.  That only happened once..    
 Woody found out the hard way that coyotes regarded him as a meal when one took a swipe at
his ass.

There are no cats near our house any more.  Cat owners keep their cats in their houses.
Those that get free have  a short life.  We may even have lost Taranga that way.  She was found
dead on the banks of the stream by our son Andrew.  May have been a natural death for
she was elderly.  Or a coyote that was not hungry  

Enough said.    Our new cat’s  father was a feral cat moving with stealth
in Erin Township, we figured his daughter who we call Chelsea Bun (because she looks
like a Chelsea Bun)… might be wise enough to keep clear of the coyotes.    

SO SHE HAS A LEASH…SHE IS NOT FREE

“Alan, she must be leashed at all times.”
“Fine.”  (Marjorie does not trust me.)
“Remember that.”

Yesterday, Marjorie did not follow her own advice and let Chelsea Bun go free…dragging her leash behind her.
Se was free for some time while Marjorie raked leaves.

“Meeeow¡”
“I hear you Chelsea Bun.”
“Meow…Meow!” 
“Where are you?”
“Meow!”
The cry was distant.
“Meow!”
“Where are you?”
“Meowww!”

We have lots of trees…half our
400 foot lot is a wilderness where coyotes can run free.
Dangerous placer for a kitten.

“Meow!”  
Marjorie spent a lot of time looking for Chelsea Bun until she looked
up and spotted the red tip of the leash jiggling high up one of
our cedar trees.   Perhaps 30 feet up, maybe higher…the  leash hanging straight down.
If she  moved she could easilly hang herself.   
“Hold on!”
Marjorie tried many things.
1)She tried to climb the tree…failed
2) She got a buck saw to cut lower benches…..failed
3) She got a ladder…too short…fsiled.
4) She thought of calling neighbour…too dangerous for Hubert…failed
5) She thought of calling fire department…too foolish…failed
6) She called son Andrew…he came with a long ladder and 
was juist able to  get his hand around the dangling leash and then
the back of Chelsea Bun.
7) Chelsea Bun began to purr…”Purr!”


Such a minor event unless you are  kitten on a leash high up a cedar tree.
I wonder whether the coyotes were watching.





CHELSEA BUN IS NOW SAFELY BACK IN BED WITH WOODY

EPISODE 900 THOUSANDS OF BLACK WALNUTS — ARE THEY POISONOUS?

       EPISODE 900  THOUSANDS OF BLACK WALNUTS — ARE THEY POISONOUS?


alan skeoch
Nov 1, 2023


Our original Black Walnut tree which was planted by me (as the legend goes) around 1944 or 1946.
The tree is now, like me, in its 80’s.  Perhaps 80 to 100 feet high.  Dominating all living things
nearby with a poison  chemiical called JUGLONE

I must ask my chemist friend Rooter…Robert Root…about that poison.  SEEMS TO KILL
LIVING THINGS

IS THIS CAUTION TRUE, ROOTER? (ASKING BOB ROOT)  ???

The effects of juglone

Close-up of black walnut fruit and surrounding leaves
The fruit husks contain the highest concentrations of juglone. (Photo by Franklin Bonner, USFS, ret., Bugwood.org)

Some people and animals are susceptible to juglone damage. Consuming too many leaves or using walnut sawdust for bedding can cause a number of problems with animals.  Some people are especially sensitive to juglone, and even sawdust from cutting walnut lumber can coat skin and produce a red welt where it lands. Juglone is a strong respiratory toxin and small amounts will damage other living creatures.

In the soil, juglone will damage many living things, including plant roots. Once it’s released into the soil, small amounts can damage and kill the roots of neighboring plants. Beneath the tree, this walnut chemical severely damages annual plants, garden vegetables, fruit trees and some broadleaf perennials. Most grasses seem immune. If it leaks back onto a walnut root, however, it is quickly made nontoxic again and stored. Wherever walnut roots travel, they change the soil they move through by adding juglone.

GRANDMA LOUISIA FREEMAN SAID I PLANTED THE WALMUT TREE
(She may have told cousin Ted Freeman the same thing we were about the same age)

 “Alan, you planted the walnut tree beside the back house.”
I do not remember doing so but I was just a little boy at the time.   If I did then I
sure knew the right spot.  The outhouse. Lots of fertilizer, the  real stuff must have seeped into the ground on
that spot.  The Black walnut loves good land.

 And lots of walnuts began to drop each fall as the tree thrived and now
towers over the farm house.  2023.. A bumper crop.  A thousand walnuts from one tree.  So many walnuts
that we need a Bobcat to move them.   

“Alan, do not go under the walnut tree…you will get boinked.”
“A thousand hard balls falling.”
“Too many.  I hate that tree.” (Marjorie’s opinion)



“Grandma loved it and so do I…part of our heritage. When I was a teen ager
I would gather a basket of walnuts and hurl the into roadside ditches from
our old 1953 Meteor.  Some big trees on the fifth line were planted that way…like
Johnny Appleseed.”
“They are poison, Alan.  Their roots kill any other tree that thinks it can
move into walnut territory.   That walnut tree killed the hickory tree.  Scares me.”

“Are black walnuts edible?””
“They are.   But they can also hurt people who are allergic to them.  I think Bill
Doyle’s brother was killed by a walnut allergy”
“Wow!  And you eat them?”
“Never knew better as a kid.. thankfully it was Difficult to get at the walnut core. “ (We are talking about Black Walnuts.  Not the
domesticated English walnuts tucked in an ice cream cone or brownies.)
“Black Walnuts?”
“They like good soil.   In distant times..pioneer days….settlers searched for
walnut groves because they knew the land of the Black Walnut would be superb.”
“”Can I taste a Black Walnut?”
“You can but it may nto be worth the effort.”
“Why?”
“You will need a sledge hammer to break the shell…needs a good
smash and all you will get are little bits of nut.  If ,by error, you
bite on a piece of walnut shell you will need a dentist .  Black
Walnuts break teeth.”

“Alan, get serious, have you ever eaten a black walnut?”
“I have tasted the nut long ago.”
“And you are still alive…or seem so.”
“Then Black Walnuts are edible.”
“Seems so.”
“This year we have a bumper crop…perhaps a thousand pounds of walnuts…so
many that we need a fork lift to move them.”



“Hold on.  Can I eat a Black Walnut…just one?”
“You can but that is another story…..another episode.”
“Why make it so difficult?”
“Because Black Walnut trees want to be sure to create more black walnut trees
and to discourage enemies like you or, particularly, those red squirrels who just love
the nuts and have teeth that can chew through the hard nut casing.”
“What’s wrong with my teeth?”
“Your teeth wold be shattered by the nut casing.”

“What about the poison?”

HOW TO PREPARE BLACK WALNUTS FOR A GOURMET FEAST… NEXT EPISODE



EPISODE 897 WHAT DOES GPS MEAN? GOOD POTATO SOUP…recipe attached

EPISODE 897     GOOD POTATO SOUP


alan skeoch
october 21, 2023

Marjorie’s picture has been deleted at her request…suffice it
to say she looked sceptical 



AN ATROCIOUS LUNCH — MOUNTAIN OF FRENCH FRIES

Marjorie got our car out of a skippery mud hole at the Vogel auction.   Not easy. So she was rewarded with a fancy
lunch at a country dining place at an atrocious cost including the demanded tip of 20%.   I did not feel good about
it…especially the huge pile  French Fried potatoes…..far more than we cold eat….then I got a great idea!

“Marjorie, let’s get the waitress to box up these French Fries.”
“Why?   Whoever eats cold French Fries!  “
“We are going to make these greasy potatoes and the goo with them into a pot of Potatoes Soup…G>P>S>..Good Potato Soup!”
“You have never cooked anything since we were married….60 years.”
“True.  You gave explicit orders …’Alan, stay out of the kitchen;””…I will break the command tomorrow.  For You..good potato soup”





RECIPE FOR GOOD POTATO SOUP

-A PILE OF COLD FRENCH FRIES
-3 CUPS WATER
-1 PACKAGE DRY SOUP MX (ANY KIND)
-SMALL GLASS OF MILK  
-DASHES OF SEA SALT, WORCESTERSHIRE SAUCE, ONION POWDER…STUFF LIKE THAT
-ANY OTHER LEFT OVERS…I.e. meat ball was found under the French Fries

DUMP IN POT
HEAT AT MODERATE

MASH THE STUFF INTO MUSH WITH A POTATO MASHER
(Cold French Fries may resist so be brutal with masher)

SERVE 



THAT’S ALL THERE IS TO IT…ANY FOOL CAN MAKE GOOD POTATO SOUP!

ALAN

P>S>  We did each consume a big bowl of the mush.   Seemed to tase good
although I went overboard with the sea salt.  Marjorie said it was good.

By nightfall we were not too sure.  Marjorie bought a bottle of TUMS FOR THE TUMMY…
 needed for two days along with a chemical that speeds up movement of
food from stomach to intestine and out.   (called meta mucil. sp?}

“Alan, Stay out of the kitchen for the next 50 years.”

(   Now you know what GPS stands for)

EPISODE 896 MR. VOGEL’S COLLECTION OF 30 TRACTORS FOR SALE

EPISODE   896     MR. VOGEL’S COLLECTION OF 30 TRACTORS FOR SALE  (oct 21   2023)


alanskeoch
Oct. 21, 2023

The Vogel barn was absolutely empty on Oct 21, 2023. However reminders of that once stood there were obvious.  Leaks from tractor oil pans
dotted the harvest floor.  Not long ago 30 tractors sat in here    Where were they?  Not far away.





The tractor were in the field…lined up for auction. Quie asight.



This steel wheeled Farmall circa 1930’s is the only tractor I waned.   beautiful machine.   But behind my
reach.   Probably sold cheaply.  Hope not for scrap.

We id not stay.   Long way home and I promised Marjorie a nice lunch.

Remember the GPS..the GOOD POTATO SOUP?  Coming next episode.

alan








Here is what that rusty Farmall looks like when restored (not in sale)


Note: Surprisingly auctioneer Jim McCartney had  sale near Virgil (Niagara on the lake) the same day…..also sold 30 tractors.  Marjorie and I usually go to 
McCartney sales except for Our. 21….we missed his vocal guaanee: “I guarantee that everything sold today was once brand new?”  Take a lookout that Farmall rusty wreck and
compare it to the restored Farmall.

EPISODE 898 MR VOGEL’SE STATE SALE CONTNUED — TWO PEOPLE YOU WOULD LIKE TO MEET

EPISODE 898    MR VOGEL’S  ESTATE SALE CONTIiNUED — TWO PEOPLE YOU WOULD LIKE TO MEET


Alan skeoch
oct. 21, 2023

THE ISSUE OF PHOTOGRAPHY  — AMISH AND MENNONITES




Most Amish today will not pose for a photograph. Considering it a violation of the Second Commandment, which prohibits the making of “graven images,” the Amish believe any physical representation of themselves (whether a photograph, a painting, or film) promotes individualism and vanity, taking away from the values of community and humility by which they govern their lives. Occasionally, Amish people did have their photos taken, as you can see with the couple in the first image who likely went to a studio for their portrait in 1875. But by the time photography became popular in America in the mid-19th century and photographers and researchers armed with cameras began appearing in Amish communities, most Amish objected to appearing in or posing for photographs entirely.

Most mennonites (including amish-mennonites) don’t mind having their picture taken, and will even keep plenty of pictures of friends and family displayed in their homes. As for posting, I wouldn’t think they would mind so long as you’re not posting for a negative reason.

THE VOGEL AUCTION AND MY CAMERA:  

Auction sales are meeting grounds.   Easy to strike up a conversation at
an auction sale.   Sometimes surprising things happen.  

VANITY seems to be the heart of the issue of photography and the Amish and Mennonite communities.
None of the pictures I took could be considered vain.  No person was captured in a pose tht glorified
the self .  Having said that, my camera was the only camera at the Vogel auction.  The only camera I noticed
and many people noticed me in a rather neutral manner.   Perhaps I was seen by some as rude…but
most people were indifferent.   I remembered an incident at a Mennonite auction years ago when I took a
picture of a Mennonite man carrying a rifle.  “Lucky it’s not loaded” he said with a smile.  The comment is
open to interpretation.  I think he was amused.  Why?  Because both the Amish and the Mennonites are 
pacifists.  I took pictures that are respectful although I suppose a bit rude.   No one was asked to pose
except for TIM whose story follows.  TIM is not an Old Order mennonite, likely not a Mennonite at all.

TIM — HIT BY A DRUNK DRIVER REQUIRED BRAIN SURGERY



TIM pushed his wheel chair past me as we waited for the auctioneer to reach the
facing mills and the chicken crate/   He was smiling as our eye locked.

“I was to proud tp bring my wheel chair.  Looks like you have bad knees as I do.” I commented.
“No, I had brain surgery years  ago.”
“Brain surgery?” I said with a smile…thinking he was joking
“Right here” And he pointed to his forehead…no stitches apparent.
“What happened?”
“Drunk driver hit me from behind…he was going so fast that the impact broke my drivers sept and smashed
me into the passenger seat behind.  Nearly killed me. At the hospital a strange  ting happened.  I could
not touch my nose no matter how many times I tried.    My brain would not let me do it. There was something
wrong with my brain.  I was alert but  my brain and my hand were out of sync.  A lot of doctors had ideas
but none worked until one doctor in London (Ontario) believed the fluid that surrounds our brains had
got pooled  by the impact and hampered brain signals.”
“My knee seems very minor.”
“Impact drove my car into a nice cadillac.  Three car wrecks,”
“What was the drunk driver like?”
“Never saw him…I was unconscious “

Why tell you this story?  Because it shows how easy a conversation at an auction sale can develop
while waiting for a chicken crate to be sold.  And Tim made my vanity over my refusal to bring a walker  obvious to me.

TRACKED BY A LITTLE BOY, ABOUT 12 YEARS OLD




And while we talked I was being tracked.  Tracked?  For some strange reason a Mennonite boy, about
12 yeas old, was tracking me.   He liked my camera.  Once he even put a finger in front of lens.  Not
done with anger.  Done to let me know he was watching me.  And I began to watch him in turn.

Here are some pics featuring Mennonites.   Pics that are deliberately non intrusive .  Pics
that are not vain.   











THIS YOUG BOY FOUND MY CAMERA FASCINATING…HE POSITIONED HIMSELF TO BE  PHOTOGRAPHED




AT First I thought it was accidental that he was dead centre in so many of  my pictures.  Not so. He knew what he was doing.



Most Mennonites clustered together with their children in tow.   The boy tracking was  a different kettle of fish.
But I dare not engage him in conversation.  Needed a parent before i would do that.

Then an odd thing happened.   The little boy was eating a piece of cake in the back of Tim’s truck.
Tim had probably driven the boys family to the sale. Old Order Mennonites hitch rides.

Does all this sound hopelessly trivial?  Life is like that.

alan



NEXT EPISODE — THE REAL REASON SO MANY MEN CAME TO THIS AUCTION — 30 TRACTORS FOR SALE 

And Then the Episode you have all been wait for….the GPS episode….THE GOOD POTATO SOUP EPISODE  (yum yum yummy)

alan

EPISODE 893 MR. VOGEL’S ESTATE SALE, OCT. 31, CROSSHILL == HAVEN FOR ECCENTRICS?

EPISODE 893     MR. VOGEL’S ESTATE SALE, OCT. 31, CROSSHILL == HAVEN FOR ECCENTRICS?


alan skeoch
oct 21, 2023

Confession:  I am addicted to rural AUCTION SALES…have been so for 50 years.
Thoroughly enjoy these sales.   I m not alone.   Men seem more affected by this
addiction than women as you will see in this episode.  Just what do we buy.
Treasures?  Hardly.

Mr Vogel’s collection of odds and ends were Sold on Oct 21 by
Gerber Auctions.  Just what was sold?

The barn is empty now….it was jammed full ofthngs Mr. Vogel admired

WHAT DID THESE MEN  BUY?

Before I can catalogue what the men bought….it might be helpful see some of the things 
that were up for sale….the small things.



Both of these barn builders drills sold for $100 plus 18%….a good buy if you need holes in barn beams for wooden nails.

The  huge wheel was once part of a cutting box…sold for $6 and the young man who bought it was ecstatic.


Marjorie bought the rope, a good hammer and a grease gun which she gave away…she paid $2



This Buzzsaw sold for $20 and included a deposit left by a raccoon on the movable bed.


THIS washing machine,, circa 1880 sold for $300 plus 13% tax and  5% auction  fee….I had considered bidding $30.  But the main reason we drove 
80 km was so I could buy the machine with the iron wheel.  It would look terrific in a 19th century movie.  What did it do?   I have no
idea but several bidders must have known … sold to a high bid of $370.  We failed.  Correction, I failed even though Marjorie encouraged me to
keep bidding.  
she must think money grows on trees..

“Alan, we drove for two hours, spent $60 or more on gas…and bought nothing.”
“Not quite nothing….but darn close to nothing.  The people and the ambience was worth the trip.”
“Are you thinking of your Episodes?  What reader would be interested?”
“People like you and me, Marjorie.”
“Alan…none of your friends are interested.   Face it.”
“My two best friends want to come to every sale we got to.”
“Who are they ?”
“You and Woody, our dog.”
“The people we meet are interesting, I’ll grant you that.”


The buyers….winning bidders…piled their treasures on the ground.   Here are some of the collections….inclding our own
collection.  Ours?  Did I say ‘ours’?  Indeed I did.  Marjorie came with me and was shocked to discover there was absolutley nothing that
she wanted. She bid anyway and got  a $2 bargain….rope, hammer and grease gun.

“Close your eyes Marjorie…Now open your eyes….you will see wonderful things that Woody has already seen.”
 



 “Alan, you said this was going  to be a great farm auction….but there is noting here that a woman would want.?
“I needed you to drive the car while I navigated.”
“you were not much good as a navigator.”
“I really thought that by following Mennonite buggy we would find the auction.:
“Some drove bycicles….Other Mennonites were just exercising horses.”
“Eventually we found one buggy heading south to the auction.

“Have you ever heard of GPS?”
“Heard of it…but do not know what GPS means”
“WHat do you think it means?”
“GPS .. Good Potato Soup?  A recipe?”


HERE ARE SOME OF THE COLLECTIONS— ENVY IS NOT APPROPRIATE


MR VOGEL WAS A COLLECTOR OBVIOUSLY AND HE WOULD BE PLEASED THAT SO MANY COLLECTORS CAME TO HIS AUCTION.

WAS THE TRIP WORTHWHILE?   IT WAS TERRIFIC.   WE MET SOME INTERESTING PEOPLE AND ONE PERSISTENT LITTLE 
MENNONITE BOY WHO WAS FASCINATED BY MY CAMERA AND TRIED TO GET IN EVERY PICTURE.   I WAS THE ONLY PERSON
TO RECORD THE AUCTION.  MENNONITES DISLIKE CAMERAS BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE PHOTOGRAPHY IS AN INDICATION OF
VANITY.  PERHAPS THEY ARE RIGHT.

NEXT EPISODE 894  … YOU WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET TWO PEOPLE WE FOUND INTERESTING.

WHAT DID WE BUY?  (SEE BELOW)


Left to right….chicken crate, bag cart, rope, buggy jack, broken corn planter, 3 legged stool, hammer
part of wooden rake,   And a two man log, ice or rail carrier.  Of these only one cost
$40…for which  one would you pay $40.?  Do not hurt my feelings by saying “None”.