{"id":25740,"date":"2023-11-08T19:32:57","date_gmt":"2023-11-09T00:32:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/?p=25740"},"modified":"2023-11-08T19:36:41","modified_gmt":"2023-11-09T00:36:41","slug":"episode-908-discovery-of-a-feral-apple-tree-apples-the-size-of-grapefruit-bushels-of-them","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/?p=25740","title":{"rendered":"EPISODE 908    DISCOVERY OF A FERAL APPLE TREE  \u2014 APPLES THE SIZE OF GRAPEFRUIT\u2014 BUSHELS OF THEM"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>EPISODE 908 &nbsp; &nbsp;DISCOVERY OF A FERAL APPLE TREE &nbsp;\u2014 APPLES THE SIZE OF GRAPEFRUIT\u2014 BUSHELS OF THEM<\/p>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">alan skeoch<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">Nov. 8, 2023<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"563BDB26-C2DE-434E-99D2-AC4C6AAC3B6A\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/C6E69995-F459-43DD-BADF-9C3068D8B050_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"2AABE6E1-9A5E-4686-9315-045E4E2AEF2A\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/908AD2B4-3EC0-48CA-94F1-D9A675C9C58D_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"F3C29FD6-EF6D-4FBD-999F-8722CE99696A\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/B0955320-7AC8-4682-A139-611260847B1B_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"AD493204-46F5-4EC1-BD82-C63D26332DDF\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/C3B7BB43-B7E1-414B-8AC0-666172DBC1DF_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">FERAL APPLE TREE BONANZA<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">It is a wretched looking tree. &nbsp;branches twisted and contorted as if being punished. &nbsp;It grows in the roadside ditch between&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">the two Skeoch farms on the Fifth Line of Erin Township. &nbsp; In short the tree would never win a beauty contest. &nbsp; But it<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">could &nbsp;become famous for its fruit. &nbsp; Bushels and bushels of apples some of which are as big as grapefruit.. &nbsp;<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">But I am getting ahead myself. &nbsp;I have crawled, walked, ridden, skated down this road piece for my whole life and i am 85 errs old<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">In all that time I never noticed this tree until this cold November day as I Was driving from one farm to the other.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cHoly Samoley, that tree is loaded..big apples. &nbsp;No! big is a poor term. &nbsp;Huge apples.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cHow many?\u201d quizzed Marjorie<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cEnough for you to make apple pies all winter.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cLike spy apples?\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cAlmost identical but they taste better.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cMany on the tree? &nbsp;Are you exaggerating?\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cHere are four pails of the apples \u2026all picked in 15 minutes \u2026 I can stand on<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">the gravel road and pick them with ease.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cIn my 85 years I &nbsp;never noticed this tree. &nbsp;I am older than the tree . Eric and I played<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">hide and seek among the huge boulders that the McLeans dumped along the fencerow in<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">years past. &nbsp;Jack in the pulpits attracted our attention but we never noticed this<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">apple tree growing \u2026.never noticed apples until this year. &nbsp;And the biggest apples are&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">at the top \u2026all I need is a ladder courage to get them meanwhile you can peel a bunch<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">and make an apple pie.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cWill they keep? &nbsp;So many apples turn to mush when they touch each other..\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cThese apples grow in clusters\u2026.five,six, seven apples in a clump. \u201c<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cMost Wild apples are small\u2026these are huge. &nbsp;Are you kidding me?<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">Did you buy these apples?\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cCome along\u2026you can boost me.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cIt wil take too long.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cIf we walk slowly it will take five minutes\u2026ir we run two minutes. &nbsp;I tell you<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">without word of a lie you are about to make a discovery that you will never forget.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cI bet that guy Husband from the University of Guelph would like to take a cutting from \u2018our&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">feral apple tree.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cWhat do you mean by the term \u2018our\u2019\u2026..this tree grows in the roadside ditch\u2026public\u2026owned by the township.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cYou just explained why I never noticed this tree before now.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cHow?\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cRemember the big storm last spring?<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">Devastated the trees\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"E39854E2-02A0-4062-9836-AF38E3CDA6C1\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/9A5BB282-0F04-40D3-BE56-E792978CF21E_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"9B528D0E-2AA9-494D-B48A-EF7BA8E55BAD\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/A7A2010B-D587-4EA9-8ED0-41F5DC4EE17B_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cThink this feral apple tree has been hiding behind other trees\u2026.the storm ripped out &nbsp;the cover and<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">the township forestry people cleaned up\u2026.cut all the crap around the feral tree\u2026.gave<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">it the breathing space it was waiting a lifetime to have happen. &nbsp;That\u2019s just a guess.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cWhy did they not cut up the feral tree?\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cCome along\u2026you will see why. &nbsp;The tree is protected by a jungle of twigs and branches\u2026hard to&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">penetrate with a chain saw. &nbsp;Why bother&#8221;<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cWhy not call Brian Husband\u2026.the professor\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cHe might not give a damn. &nbsp;No-one cares.&#8221;<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">alan<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">Postscript: &nbsp;Wonder of wonders\u2026Brian Husband is alive and well and interested<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">NOTE FROM BRIAN HUSBAND &nbsp;(NOV. 8, 2023<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\n<div style=\"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;\" class=\"\">Hello Alan,<o:p class=\"\"><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div style=\"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;\" class=\"\">Thank you for including me on your latest episode about the orchard. I appreciated the photos and the words. They made me curious about the history of that orchard. Do you have reason to believe those trees were part of an actual orchard of cultivars or might they be seeds that established and persisted because they were protected from cultivation for some reason. I always enjoy those little discoveries and the questions that arise about their origin.<o:p class=\"\"><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div style=\"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;\" class=\"\"><o:p class=\"\">&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/div>\n<div style=\"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;\" class=\"\">Thanks for your observations and thoughts.<o:p class=\"\"><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div style=\"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;\" class=\"\"><o:p class=\"\">&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/div>\n<div style=\"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;\" class=\"\">Best,<o:p class=\"\"><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div style=\"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;\" class=\"\"><o:p class=\"\">&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/div>\n<div style=\"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;\" class=\"\">Brian<o:p class=\"\"><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div style=\"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;\" class=\"\"><o:p class=\"\">&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\n<div style=\"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;\" class=\"\"><b class=\"\"><span style=\"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;\" class=\"\">Dr. Brian C Husband&nbsp;<\/span><\/b><span style=\"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;\" class=\"\">(he\/him)<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\" class=\"\">&nbsp;|<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;\" class=\"\">Professor of Integrative Biology&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\" class=\"\">|&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;\" class=\"\">University of Guelph,&nbsp;Summerlee Science Complex Rm 1477&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\" class=\"\">|<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;\" class=\"\">&nbsp;50 Stone Rd E&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\" class=\"\">|<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;\" class=\"\">&nbsp;Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1<o:p class=\"\"><\/o:p><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;\" class=\"\"><span style=\"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;\" class=\"\">519-824-4120 Ext. 54790&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\" class=\"\">|<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;\" class=\"\">&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=\"mailto:bhusband@uoguelph.ca\" style=\"color: blue;\" class=\"\"><a href=\"mailto:bhusband@uoguelph.ca\" >bhusband@uoguelph.ca<\/a><\/a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.uoguelph.ca\/ib\/\" style=\"color: blue;\" class=\"\">www.uoguelph.ca\/ib\/<\/a><br class=\"\"><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;\" class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\n<p class=\"\" style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 1rem; font-size: 1.8rem; line-height: 2.7rem; caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-family: Roboto, Arial, sans-serif; letter-spacing: 0.3px;\">&#8220;After comparing the genes of 578 naturalized feral trees to those of 156 non-feral varieties, as well as some ornamental species, the researchers discovered feral varieties originate strictly from commercially grown species. The study revealed parents of many feral apple trees comprise nine heritage cultivars \u2014 all varieties grown before 1900 \u2014 that accounted for 72 per cent of the identified parental lineages in the analysis.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 1rem; font-size: 1.8rem; line-height: 2.7rem; caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-family: Roboto, Arial, sans-serif; letter-spacing: 0.3px;\">\u201cThe origin of feral trees wasn\u2019t so much the commercial apples fertilizing native crabapple, but rather these escaped apples that were now out there and growing wild,\u201d said Husband. \u201cThe legacy of these old cultivars, some of which are no longer in production, reside in the mixed genomes of these wild apples.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\n<p class=\"\" style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 1rem; font-size: 1.8rem; line-height: 2.7rem; caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-family: Roboto, Arial, sans-serif; letter-spacing: 0.3px;\">Some cider producers have begun mapping and evaluating unique apple strains found growing in abandoned orchards, hedgerows and historical properties, looking for those that are suitable for making hard cider, Husband added.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 1rem; font-size: 1.8rem; line-height: 2.7rem; caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-family: Roboto, Arial, sans-serif; letter-spacing: 0.3px;\">\u201cThere is definitely a growing interest in feral apples. Cider producers are looking for interesting flavours, and feral apples with heritage traits may be just what they are looking for.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"4A6BE057-E824-4C50-8717-DE72EF2F525C\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/2334C8B1-CDBA-40B9-85B0-B03696474F4A_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cMarjorie, I took two of these apples to our high school reunion today\u2026seven old timers from Humberside C.I.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cwere the excited?\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cNot much\u2026only Zig Novak who said \u201cthis looks like a Northern Spy Apple\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cCynical?\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cNo, I think he was perceptive\u2026asked him to take a bite as I did.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cHis comment?\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cAlan, I am taking this apple for my wife to taste.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cSeemed to support your great discovery &nbsp;How did the others feel?\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cI think &nbsp;some of them &nbsp;thought I was a bit wacky.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cTrue.&#8221;<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"E74A6240-FCA1-46F9-8D7F-E67F3C4564CB\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/B3C6D45B-AFBC-4848-8FB7-44247E8351A1_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"8DEF5081-5BFE-4948-885F-926D20ADA86C\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/DB53E1BE-FA18-4B3C-8DE3-3EA2DCA5C0A5_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"82656C64-8BAD-4D66-BBD0-10C1D59B5D0E\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/281E97B9-ED87-402E-9951-89C1195B2B66_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"CF64C634-FC28-4AD3-A27F-6C38A792C575\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/E1C45CFD-379C-4DEC-89A1-33A9E3580507_1_201_a.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"E39854E2-02A0-4062-9836-AF38E3CDA6C1\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/9A5BB282-0F04-40D3-BE56-E792978CF21E_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"135473BE-FC47-4035-BE48-B5F899B64405\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/908AD2B4-3EC0-48CA-94F1-D9A675C9C58D_1_105_c-1.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"B058A255-48C6-49E3-97A6-E8875418CF83\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/B0955320-7AC8-4682-A139-611260847B1B_1_105_c-1.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"723E4170-72AF-410C-8D06-72C84BB15B9D\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/17E6A183-2F6D-4845-B2DF-3AEF3352B81D_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"8377F3F9-F670-4120-ACC0-6D19EB767B13\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/C3B7BB43-B7E1-414B-8AC0-666172DBC1DF_1_105_c-1.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"0AFA228B-8660-4D9D-803E-91FEA7EC0E4C\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/A18C8962-A2B8-4B95-A9F1-8ABC8DF8FDE0_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\n<div class=\"\">\n<div style=\"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;\" class=\"\"><span style=\"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;\" class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>EPISODE 908 &nbsp; &nbsp;DISCOVERY OF A FERAL APPLE TREE &nbsp;\u2014 APPLES THE SIZE OF GRAPEFRUIT\u2014 BUSHELS OF THEM alan skeoch Nov. 8, 2023 FERAL APPLE TREE BONANZA It is a wretched looking tree. &nbsp;branches twisted and contorted as if being punished. &nbsp;It grows in the roadside ditch between&nbsp; the two Skeoch farms on the Fifth [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-25740","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25740","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=25740"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25740\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=25740"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=25740"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=25740"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}