{"id":25638,"date":"2023-10-26T21:28:12","date_gmt":"2023-10-27T01:28:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/?p=25638"},"modified":"2023-10-26T21:42:46","modified_gmt":"2023-10-27T01:42:46","slug":"episode-898-mr-vogelse-state-sale-contnued-two-people-you-would-like-to-meet","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/?p=25638","title":{"rendered":"EPISODE 898    MR VOGEL&#8217;SE STATE SALE CONTNUED &#8212; TWO PEOPLE YOU WOULD LIKE TO MEET"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>EPISODE 898 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;MR VOGEL\u2019S &nbsp;ESTATE SALE CONTIiNUED &#8212; TWO PEOPLE YOU WOULD LIKE TO MEET<\/p>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">Alan skeoch<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">oct. 21, 2023<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">THE ISSUE OF PHOTOGRAPHY &nbsp;&#8212; AMISH AND MENNONITES<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"A2A7E29C-DD49-4EA6-81F0-B815287920A1\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/CF9D6E93-F3ED-478A-93D6-FBFED0BFDB54_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span style=\"font-family: Muli, \"Trebuchet MS\", sans-serif;\" class=\"\">Most Amish today will not pose for a photograph. Considering it a violation of the Second Commandment, which prohibits the making of &#8220;graven images,&#8221; the Amish believe any physical representation of themselves (whether a photograph, a painting, or film) promotes individualism and vanity, taking away from the values of community and humility by which they govern their lives. Occasionally, Amish people did have their photos taken, as you can see with the couple in the first image who likely went to a studio for their portrait in 1875. But by the time photography became popular in America in the mid-19th century and photographers and researchers armed with cameras began appearing in Amish communities, most Amish objected to appearing in or posing for photographs entirely.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span style=\"caret-color: rgb(19, 19, 19); color: rgb(19, 19, 19); font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, \"Segoe UI\", Roboto, \"Helvetica Neue\", Arial, \"Apple Color Emoji\", \"Segoe UI Emoji\", \"Segoe UI Symbol\", sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);\" class=\"\">Most mennonites (including amish-mennonites) don&#8217;t mind having their picture taken, and will even keep plenty of pictures of friends and family displayed in their homes. As for posting, I wouldn&#8217;t think they would mind so long as you&#8217;re not posting for a negative reason.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">THE VOGEL AUCTION AND MY CAMERA: &nbsp;<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">Auction sales are meeting grounds. &nbsp; Easy to strike up a conversation at<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">an auction sale. &nbsp; Sometimes surprising things happen. &nbsp;<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">VANITY seems to be the heart of the issue of photography and the Amish and Mennonite communities.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">None of the pictures I took could be considered vain. &nbsp;No person was captured in a pose tht glorified<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">the self . &nbsp;Having said that, my camera was the only camera at the Vogel auction. &nbsp;The only camera I noticed<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">and many people noticed me in a rather neutral manner. &nbsp; Perhaps I was seen by some as rude\u2026but<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">most people were indifferent. &nbsp; I remembered an incident at a Mennonite auction years ago when I took a<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">picture of a Mennonite man carrying a rifle. &nbsp;\u201cLucky it\u2019s not loaded\u201d he said with a smile. &nbsp;The comment is<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">open to interpretation. &nbsp;I think he was amused. &nbsp;Why? &nbsp;Because both the Amish and the Mennonites are&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">pacifists. &nbsp;I took pictures that are respectful although I suppose a bit rude. &nbsp; No one was asked to pose<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">except for TIM whose story follows. &nbsp;TIM is not an Old Order mennonite, likely not a Mennonite at all.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">TIM \u2014 HIT BY A DRUNK DRIVER REQUIRED BRAIN SURGERY<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"AF583FFD-E0F9-4C07-9353-0B531B8FBC83\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/31199174-C3E0-436F-9B31-9C85DB6F8C0F_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"A2A7E29C-DD49-4EA6-81F0-B815287920A1\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/CF9D6E93-F3ED-478A-93D6-FBFED0BFDB54_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"3B9F7112-3C39-48FD-8EB2-D128C59F04FA\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/03D4CC1A-14EB-45FA-9C6A-32D404D94346_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"F9E6DD43-6690-45E0-964F-AC218758C1F8\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/2A5D3FA9-1CB6-4D65-AE0D-2BBCADD3D3B5_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">TIM pushed his wheel chair past me as we waited for the auctioneer to reach the<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">facing mills and the chicken crate\/ &nbsp; He was smiling as our eye locked.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cI was to proud tp bring my wheel chair. &nbsp;Looks like you have bad knees as I do.\u201d I commented.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cNo, I had brain surgery years &nbsp;ago.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cBrain surgery?\u201d I said with a smile\u2026thinking he was joking<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cRight here\u201d And he pointed to his forehead\u2026no stitches apparent.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cWhat happened?\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cDrunk driver hit me from behind\u2026he was going so fast that the impact broke my drivers sept and smashed<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">me into the passenger seat behind. &nbsp;Nearly killed me. At the hospital a strange &nbsp;ting happened. &nbsp;I could<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">not touch my nose no matter how many times I tried. &nbsp; &nbsp;My brain would not let me do it. There was something<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">wrong with my brain. &nbsp;I was alert but &nbsp;my brain and my hand were out of sync. &nbsp;A lot of doctors had ideas<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">but none worked until one doctor in London (Ontario) believed the fluid that surrounds our brains had<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">got pooled &nbsp;by the impact and hampered brain signals.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cMy knee seems very minor.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cImpact drove my car into a nice cadillac. &nbsp;Three car wrecks,\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cWhat was the drunk driver like?\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cNever saw him\u2026I was unconscious \u201c<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">Why tell you this story? &nbsp;Because it shows how easy a conversation at an auction sale can develop<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">while waiting for a chicken crate to be sold. &nbsp;And Tim made my vanity over my refusal to bring a walker &nbsp;obvious to me.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">TRACKED BY A LITTLE BOY, ABOUT 12 YEARS OLD<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"E0C3CAE9-FC87-4A72-BBA9-EDCC8F1AA493\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/81EACCBC-95C0-4E1E-8DAA-D9F1DD0D2495_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">And while we talked I was being tracked. &nbsp;Tracked? &nbsp;For some strange reason a Mennonite boy, about<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">12 yeas old, was tracking me. &nbsp; He liked my camera. &nbsp;Once he even put a finger in front of lens. &nbsp;Not<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">done with anger. &nbsp;Done to let me know he was watching me. &nbsp;And I began to watch him in turn.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">Here are some pics featuring Mennonites. &nbsp; Pics that are deliberately non intrusive . &nbsp;Pics<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">that are not vain. &nbsp;&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"EC7DBA27-B05C-4D47-A261-D935D671729C\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/6A5FB90D-8CF2-4C43-A15E-B2A3CE3B884A_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"0665239E-93B9-454C-8283-550725268B4F\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/CBF3DCE6-E2D2-43E8-8907-4D69A128307B_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"A4DEC03C-F357-46BD-AF6D-5EE27AF343AF\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/A66004F2-17A9-4153-8A12-C26295FCC67B_1_105_c-1.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"2B408CD1-8EF1-4850-9DE8-E3F00550A0E9\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/4E99EF38-1C44-42E3-B71D-7CCC686B6CCE_1_105_c-1.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"F41F27BF-CD17-41FB-8E33-FA9717458904\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/23D05538-E29F-45E0-BA37-A98A8FBB7E9F_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"6EEAB577-B31A-4F26-B6A8-7F761DE5782B\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/A34596D1-4A22-4217-A3B4-1114A30D2564_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"F74E1EAE-30C4-4A04-A80A-A626FF7A0170\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/AB1232D1-CA3D-48DF-A02B-0611B837AFD5_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"7F8E7F45-3A36-4378-BAE1-231AF5A18ABF\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/9378BF6E-9C7D-49F7-8125-9563F02813B6_1_105_c-1.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"EF60D82C-4B66-4F50-98DD-20ABF07413A4\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/E5464246-CC74-4BCE-92CB-EB65FB1290A9_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"2CA431C7-DC7D-4222-B215-59F031D4C2C2\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/27C7053D-DA5D-41C7-99D1-0478D6755D0F_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"4EC4A20F-A797-4742-BB99-EBDE0FE9F095\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/8C727EE4-C308-4FC6-9DA5-1CCE8D59D495_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">THIS YOUG BOY FOUND MY CAMERA FASCINATING\u2026HE POSITIONED HIMSELF TO BE &nbsp;PHOTOGRAPHED<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"4F9495A2-0D6C-44A3-9495-D183C097F476\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/387348FB-87AF-4C21-9455-F7B2D59550F6_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"3F302903-1C35-4B81-9A16-7DF1CA211FE5\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/943348F4-4CD3-4285-BDE9-B34BEEE5AAB0_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"623D1CE1-B18D-4E52-808D-6BA6C36DF1AE\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/31B561A9-898D-4244-A0E1-50893F50C89A_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">AT First I thought it was accidental that he was dead centre in so many of &nbsp;my pictures. &nbsp;Not so. He knew what he was doing.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"553191B3-99C8-4EDD-B688-AE73ACC0A027\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/5BD22623-A4FC-4CCF-84F4-5E62DD223EBD_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"13E2550B-226C-4A36-A944-8D886719FB95\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/3C4681BB-0286-4017-ABB1-2E8D7B1B809B_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"2805E885-996B-467D-BC67-B6D94C548634\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/13A2BCB1-AE48-4C63-A559-373A4A67018F_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"2B6BF9EA-F0E3-44E1-A742-55CB487CD210\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FD869EC5-D4AE-4388-9A04-5E54D6C1DAE6_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"E0C3CAE9-FC87-4A72-BBA9-EDCC8F1AA493\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/81EACCBC-95C0-4E1E-8DAA-D9F1DD0D2495_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">Most Mennonites clustered together with their children in tow. &nbsp; The boy tracking was &nbsp;a different kettle of fish.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">But I dare not engage him in conversation. &nbsp;Needed a parent before i would do that.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">Then an odd thing happened. &nbsp; The little boy was eating a piece of cake in the back of Tim\u2019s truck.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">Tim had probably driven the boys family to the sale. Old Order Mennonites hitch rides.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">Does all this sound hopelessly trivial? &nbsp;Life is like that.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">alan<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"4B7610EE-7B3E-47D1-A74C-FEEB836A6EA0\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/C3C08B44-95D0-4134-983C-2A1C7A1C8CA7_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"76CDF19A-814E-4880-B323-C59A602C9523\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/D609B4CE-87FF-4203-8213-40F17D67C925_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"3648DA51-C894-4BA7-851F-4E0C9E364B82\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/1EF513F6-5BE0-4E45-A3C3-2683CE334205_1_105_c.jpeg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"12D0D1B5-5FC9-48C6-AF76-65DBD710353D\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/04168517-4104-49B2-AAC6-EA5C8C8111BA_1_201_a.jpeg\" class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">NEXT EPISODE \u2014 THE REAL REASON SO MANY MEN CAME TO THIS AUCTION \u2014 30 TRACTORS FOR SALE&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">And Then the Episode you have all been wait for\u2026.the GPS episode\u2026.THE GOOD POTATO SOUP EPISODE &nbsp;(yum yum yummy)<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">alan<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>EPISODE 898 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;MR VOGEL\u2019S &nbsp;ESTATE SALE CONTIiNUED &#8212; TWO PEOPLE YOU WOULD LIKE TO MEET Alan skeoch oct. 21, 2023 THE ISSUE OF PHOTOGRAPHY &nbsp;&#8212; AMISH AND MENNONITES Most Amish today will not pose for a photograph. Considering it a violation of the Second Commandment, which prohibits the making of &#8220;graven images,&#8221; the Amish believe [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-25638","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25638","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=25638"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25638\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=25638"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=25638"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=25638"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}