{"id":22669,"date":"2022-12-02T21:59:05","date_gmt":"2022-12-03T02:59:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/?p=22669"},"modified":"2022-12-02T22:16:35","modified_gmt":"2022-12-03T03:16:35","slug":"episode-688-escape-from-the-yukon-part-8-where-did-the-tlingit-people-come-from-11000-years-ago","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/?p=22669","title":{"rendered":"EPISODE  688   ESCAPE FROM THE YUKON  PART 8   WHERE DID THE TLINGIT PEOPLE COME FROM 11,000 YEARS AGO?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">EPISODE &nbsp;688 &nbsp; ESCAPE FROM THE YUKON &nbsp;PART 8 &nbsp; WHERE DID THE TLINGIT PEOPLE COME FROM 11,000 YEARS AGO?<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">alan skeoch<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">dec. 1, 2022<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"66ABF374-3DE0-4F31-B27E-226FAA5D23A6\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/gema_03_img0236.jpg\" class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">Tlingit girls, circa 1900<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\" class=\"mw-mmv-final-image jpg\" alt=\"Photo of two large canoes with many rowers\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"10AF5A8A-6D9A-40F8-B1FD-E205607D7CA3\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/The_Thlinket_Indian_1887.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Taku.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/a\/af\/Taku.jpg\/250px-Taku.jpg\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"250\" height=\"309\" srcset=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/a\/af\/Taku.jpg\/375px-Taku.jpg 1.5x, <a href=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/a\/af\/Taku.jpg\">upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/a\/af\/Taku.jpg<\/a> 2x&#8221; data-file-width=&#8221;485&#8243; data-file-height=&#8221;599&#8243; class=&#8221;&#8221;><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">Tlingit Canoes in Alaska, 1887\u2026Did the Tinglits paddle there way to North America? &nbsp;Or walk? No one knows.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">SKAGWAY, HAINES JUNCTION, TREADWELL, JUNEAU\u2026 \u2018TLINGIT\u2019 TERRITORY<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">Several of the Treadwell miners In 1917 were First Nations people\u2026Likely Tlingits.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">Who are the Tlingit people? &nbsp;No one really knows their origin. &nbsp;But there are two schools of thought.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">The first is fairly well known. &nbsp;Eleven thousand years ago much of the world\u2019s water had become ice<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">A huge sheet of ice covered much of North America. &nbsp;But not all of North America. &nbsp;Vast amounts of water<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">was stored in the Arctic and Antarctic ice caps. &nbsp;&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\u201cDuring the last glaciation 18,000 years ago sea levels were 120 metres (394 feet) lower than today.\u201d<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">&nbsp; &nbsp;(Brian Fagan, THE COMPLETE ICE AGE, How climate Shaped the World, P.76) &nbsp;Climate changes<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">not new. &nbsp;The difference is the speed of climate change due to human intervention. &nbsp;In the last 100,00<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">or so years there have been five Ice Ages and five Warm ages. &nbsp;As ice melts, oceans get deeper. &nbsp;As ice forms<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">oceans get shallower.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">What is now the Bering Sea was a land bridge joining Asia to North America. &nbsp;It is believed that<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">Asiatic human beings crossed this land bridge at various times and settled in various locations.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">The First Nations. &nbsp;Why? &nbsp;Because animals such as Hairy Mammoths and others had already made the<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">crossing and humans were hunter gatherers. &nbsp;A hairy mammoth could make a fine and lasting meal.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">This theory believes humans, like the Tlingit, \u2018walked\u2019 across the Bering land bridge. &nbsp;It makes sense.<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">There is another theory, however, that also makes sense. Eleven thousand years ago a small group of<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">people paddled their way from island to island, from headland to headland\u2026from the South Pacific<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">to North America. Polynesians. They found the food sources available in the Alaskan panhandle plentiful. &nbsp;So&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">they settled themselves on the islands and the mainland from Skagway to Juneau. &nbsp;<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">As our climate warmed &nbsp;the sheets of ice melted, the sea got deeper and what was shoreline<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">in the last ice age changed. &nbsp;Evidence of the movement of stone age people who came to North&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">America by sea was obliterated. &nbsp;<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">Tlingits are different than other native people; &nbsp;Or are they?<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\n<h3 class=\"\" style=\"color: inherit; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); box-sizing: border-box; font-family: \"Open Sans\", \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-weight: 500; line-height: 1.1; margin-top: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px; font-size: 1.4em;\"><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"skondoo\" alt=\"\" name=\"skondoo\" apple-inline=\"yes\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/history_Skondoo_etc.jpg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" id=\"jim\" alt=\"\" name=\"jim\" apple-inline=\"yes\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/history_jimthejewler.jpg\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" id=\"Whalehouse\" alt=\"\" name=\"Whalehouse\" apple-inline=\"yes\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/history_whale_house.jpg\" class=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/a\/a2\/Tlingit-map.png\/220px-Tlingit-map.png\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"220\" height=\"365\" class=\"thumbimage\" srcset=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/a\/a2\/Tlingit-map.png\/330px-Tlingit-map.png 1.5x, <a href=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/a\/a2\/Tlingit-map.png\/440px-Tlingit-map.png\">upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/a\/a2\/Tlingit-map.png\/440px-Tlingit-map.png<\/a> 2x&#8221; data-file-width=&#8221;637&#8243; data-file-height=&#8221;1057&#8243;><\/h3>\n<h3 class=\"\" style=\"color: inherit; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); box-sizing: border-box; font-family: \"Open Sans\", \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-weight: 500; line-height: 1.1; margin-top: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px; font-size: 1.4em;\"><br class=\"\"><\/h3>\n<h3 class=\"\" style=\"color: inherit; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); box-sizing: border-box; font-family: \"Open Sans\", \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-weight: 500; line-height: 1.1; margin-top: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px;\"><font size=\"4\" class=\"\">EARLY HISTORY<\/font><\/h3>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px;\">The name Tlingit essentially means human beings. The word was originally used simply to distinguish a human being from an animal, since Tlingits believed that there was little difference between humans and animals. Over time the word came to be a national name. It is speculated that human occupation of southeast Alaska occurred 11,000 years ago by Tlingit people. Haida people, with whom the Tlingit have frequent interaction, have only been in the area about 200 years, and the Tsimpsian migrated only recently from the Canadian interior mainland.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px;\">Tlingit legends speak of migrations into the area from several possible directions, either from the north as a possible result of the Bering Sea land bridge, or from the southwest, after a maritime journey from the Polynesian islands across the Pacific. Oral traditions hold that the Tlingit came from the head of the rivers. As one story goes, Nass-aa-geyeil&#8217; (Raven from the head of the Nass River) brought light and stars and moon to the world. The Tlingit are unique and unrelated to other tribes around them. They have no linguistic relationship to any other language except for a vague similarity to the Athabaskan language. They also share some cultural similarity with the Athabaskan, with whom the Tlingit have interacted and traded for centuries. There may also be a connection between the Haida and the Tlingit, but this issue is debated. Essentially, the origin of the Tlingit is unknown.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">NOTE No one really knows where the Tlingits originated. &nbsp;Was the Pacific Ocean sprinkled with more islands 11000 years ago? Was island hopping easier?<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\n<div style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 1em; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; caret-color: rgb(102, 102, 102); color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif;\" class=\"\">Even with today\u2019s DNA testing, the origin of the Tlingit people is not certain. It is generally accepted they came from the Eastern Hemisphere across the Bering Strait and down into Southeastern Alaska. Some believe the ancient imigration by-passed the glacier-choked panhandle and instead populated parts of California and the Lower 48, even as far south as South America and then returned later when the ice had receded. Others believe some of these ancient travelers remained to settle this area.<\/div>\n<div style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 1em; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; caret-color: rgb(102, 102, 102); color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif;\" class=\"\">The pre-contact native population of the Pacific Northwest Coast is also difficult to determine. Successive epidemics of measles and smallpox took their toll on native villages, sometimes leaving only one or two survivors. There is no way to determine exactly how many lives were lost due to these new diseases, but it appears that there was a great decline in population in the first half of the nineteenth century.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 1em; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; caret-color: rgb(102, 102, 102); color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif;\" class=\"\"><span style=\"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);\" class=\"\">The ocean provided not only food, but also a transportation corridor. Highly skilled navigators with seaworthy canoes, the Tlingit thought nothing of paddling for days in any direction. The Chilkats and Chilkoots also had overland routes to the interior. A great trade empire was established from interior Alaska\/Canada south to northern California. In the Americas, this trade empire was rivaled in size only by the Incas.<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 1em; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;\" class=\"\"><span style=\"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);\" class=\"\"><font color=\"#666666\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif\" class=\"\"><span style=\"caret-color: rgb(102, 102, 102);\" class=\"\">(William M. Olson, The Tlingit, An Introduction&nbsp;to their culture and history, 1997<\/span><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 1em; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;\" class=\"\"><font color=\"#666666\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif\" class=\"\"><span style=\"caret-color: rgb(102, 102, 102); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);\" class=\"\">POPOLATION<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 1em; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;\" class=\"\"><font color=\"#666666\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif\" class=\"\"><span style=\"caret-color: rgb(102, 102, 102); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);\" class=\"\">According to the 2o16 census there are 2110 Tlingit people most of them living in Haines Junction, Alaska, &nbsp; First contact with<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 1em; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;\" class=\"\"><font color=\"#666666\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif\" class=\"\"><span style=\"caret-color: rgb(102, 102, 102); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);\" class=\"\">Europeans the&nbsp;<\/span>population was&nbsp;estimated. &nbsp;Not large.<span style=\"caret-color: rgb(102, 102, 102);\" class=\"\">&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 1em; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;\" class=\"\"><br class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 1em; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;\" class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" title=\"Dance Hat\" alt=\"Dance Hat\" apple-inline=\"yes\" id=\"7EEB3FF7-85E6-4E03-BB13-A7DF1ECFD8CF\" src=\"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/4ffbb6b4-07c7-4898-ad08-974669cf21ee.jpg\" class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 1em; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;\" class=\"\"><font color=\"#666666\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif\" class=\"\"><span style=\"caret-color: rgb(102, 102, 102);\" class=\"\">Tlingit dance hat. circa 1850<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 1em; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;\" class=\"\"><font color=\"#666666\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif\" class=\"\"><span style=\"caret-color: rgb(102, 102, 102);\" class=\"\">(National Museum of Canada)<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 1em; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;\" class=\"\"><font color=\"#666666\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif\" class=\"\"><span style=\"caret-color: rgb(102, 102, 102);\" class=\"\">alan skeoch<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 1em; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;\" class=\"\"><font color=\"#666666\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif\" class=\"\"><span style=\"caret-color: rgb(102, 102, 102);\" class=\"\">dec. 2,2022<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 1em; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;\" class=\"\"><font color=\"#666666\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif\" class=\"\">NEXT: EPISODE 689 &nbsp; ESCAPE FROM THE YUKON 1961: &nbsp;GORDON LIGHTFOOT&nbsp;\u201cIN THE EARLY MORNING RAIN&#8221;<\/font><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>EPISODE &nbsp;688 &nbsp; ESCAPE FROM THE YUKON &nbsp;PART 8 &nbsp; WHERE DID THE TLINGIT PEOPLE COME FROM 11,000 YEARS AGO? alan skeoch dec. 1, 2022 Tlingit girls, circa 1900 EARLY HISTORY The name Tlingit essentially means human beings. The word was originally used simply to distinguish a human being from an animal, since Tlingits believed [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-22669","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22669","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=22669"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22669\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=22669"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=22669"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alanskeoch.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=22669"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}